Diamond_Jim

just keep repeating "Anastasia saved the AFL season"

Good rule change It doesn't outlaw the punch away down the line or out of bounds on the bounce but the easy punch away across the boundary line on the full should go. We did the same for ruck tapouts many many years ago. Increasingly the game is being played along the boundary line. Anything that detracts from that is worth trying. It's not a big change but if there is concern trial it in the VFL

Forgot Spartacus... I like him and I think his kicking distance improved this year. Last year he was lucky to get 30 metres. But like the others he's not a wow... he has to be in the side player

I suppose if it's a choice between Hannan and Hunt I'd favour Hunt but neither excite. Our HFF depth isn't that great. I don't expect AVB to play that well in 2021. ANB who knows and even Melksham. None is a a wow....must have in the 18 selection And of course no Harley on the horizon Have I missed anyone?

Tom is 28...this is his last contract of any size Why would he take a salary cut.There's no upside. Conversely what club wants a disgruntled player languishing in the VFL This ain't easy save for those who think he'll magically regain form. (Fairytales never come true at the MFC as we all know)

I think that's quite likely. As I posed on another thread how much are we prepared to pay to trade him. Per year..100k, 200k 250k ?

The paycut they took was a proportionate pay cut with a corresponding reduction in the salary cap. If they take a paycut the Tom salary supplement may go down in dollar terms but as a percentage of the new salary cap and media revenue from the AFL it will remain the same.

Needs a year out of football. Has been in AFL since the age of 17....needs a break Always amazed that long term injury players hang around the club. Perfect opportunity with mentoring support to develop as a person

Not sure some on here understand the haircut we will take if T Mac leaves. IMO he should go but we will probably end up paying around $200k per year of his salary for the next two years. Anything under $200k would be a win for us.

Love it.... “Maybe he’s destined to return to the backline. I’m not sure where Collingwood see him fitting in but they recruited Jeremy Howe as a forward and turned him into one of the great defenders of the last five or six years.”

I doubt it. The old VFL had 18 rounds if I recall. This is all about money saving and getting effectively scratch matches for the cheapest price. Integrity of the comp will come a long second. The other thing about that tweet is what is meant by "stand alone teams". Is that referring to the likes of Port Melbourne etc. If so you could have around 19-20 teams in the comp. Just noticed KC from Casey posted a link to a Herald Sun report saying that the Northern Bullants would be a stand alone club come 2021.

16 rounds ?????

Agree..the Bowls club land might have given them room for a pool and a gym but not much else She lauds the Richmond setup whereas I think it's a cobbled together solution made better somewhat by the surrounding parkland. The one area I would like to see explored is shared facilities with the likes of Collingwood, Richmond or Carlton. The big land item are the ovals (two seems to be the requirement) which could be used on alternate days or on a morning/afternoon roster. Same with the indoor training facility.Two gyms (they are not big space requirements) and two admin areas. As an aside people do not realise how lucky we were to have the old Board of Works (MMBW). The CEO in the time of Bolte was a guy called Croxford. The authority was as rich as Croesus and the story is told that if Croxford saw some spare land near a river or creek he would zone it or buy it. He locked the land off from the public and it was only opened up in the early seventies but without his "misguided" foresight we wouldn't have the fantastic river parks we have today. (of course Kennett saw the landbank along with that owned by the SEC ad flogged a lot of it off.)

As we haven't had a home for thirty plus years it's hard to see where we fit. The article seems to be more about the big multi function corporate structure and the physical location vs history. She seems to ignore the advantages offered by indoor training facilities.pools etc. The club stuff could have been dealt with better by replicating the Windy Hill trophy room or similar perhaps. Tullamarine is fast becoming the Waverley of the North as the suburbs such as Gisborne, Sunbury etc grow ever larger so I wouldn't call it outer Melbourne. (And of course it's a lot closer than Casey).

Recent article by Caroline Wilson linking the Bomber's woes to their move to Tullamarine away from Windy Hill. Not sure I agree with her attempted conclusions but it is an alternative view. For example she questions the Hawks' move to Dingley but lauds their earlier move to Waverley as a masterstroke. "That Essendon have ended a crisis-ridden season in a crisis of their own making is beyond dispute. And while this unfolding predicament is man-made it's worth revisiting once again the Bombers' ill-fated decision to abandon their spiritual home and move to an isolated new base at Tullamarine...... Boasting a footprint double the size of Windy Hill, the cavernous Hangar, futuristic fittings and fixtures, an MCG-sized training oval and one the dimension of Marvel Stadium has not exactly spelt success for the Essendon Football Club." https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/bombers-lost-their-soul-with-their-move-from-windy-hill-20201008-p563e6.html

The problem with the revenue model in addition to what you have mentioned is how you measure revenue. Does it include sponsorships for example where the power clubs would be receiving 2-3 times the revenue of a lesser club.Does it include Hawthorn's poker machine revenue etc etc Having had to draft many agreements relating to revenue/profit sharing it's not easy. Once did a revenue sharing model for a takeover of some finance whiz kids' business. Looked fair but they came in doubled the staff upped the revenue by around 50% but also of course doubled the expenses and eliminated the profit . Learnt a lesson from that one.

Off topic but can someone please post a link to the "new training ground thread". I want to make a post and in my searches couldn't crack the correct key words. Many thanks

Tend to agree and at most 25%. The ticket revenue for Tennis Australia must be massive. Every seat in three stadiums sold for two sessions a day at an average close to $100. Add to that the hotel bookings etc etc and the overall loss to the Vic economy is enormous. As I understand it the next biggest stadiums are in Sydney and Brisbane. Perhaps a split tournament could be the way to go. With the seeding system you could have half the draw in one State and half in another and bring the finalists together. Alternatively you could split the men and the women which I don't think would be a good idea. As to the cricket a test against India in front of good crowds would be a very big TV draw card in India as it would be the only game for a year that India has played in front of crowds. Would they pay for a 25% filled MCG... who knows.

The ACA and CA are strange bedfellows given that many cricketers now make the bulk of their money from the IPL. That aside I am amazed about how quickly the money ran out at CA. Makes you wonder how Tennis Australia will go if limited crowds are allowed at the Australian Open

Trengroves tackle on Danger And then they were equals Sums up MFCSS in one play

smart marketing as well as rewarding loyalty. Many may like the upgrade and decide to pay the extra in 2022

A piece of trivia...One of the leading cases on the old form of many clubs then known as unincorporated associations involved the Carlton Football club and the enforceability of a lease to the old Fitzroy football club. Some of the clubs were companies limited by guarantee. Then you had the wonderful incorporation of unincorporated associations act. The quirk I always loved was the golf clubs with the declining members that then allowed the few to sell off the clubs land for a fortune and pocket the money. (In the case of MFC I don't think that's open to us desperate members.)

2020 equivocal... let me borrow those rose coloured glasses An injury free team that won one game against equal/superior opposition (St Kilda) by a point. Collingwood were injury riddled when we met them and we failed against every other team in the 8 during home and away for the third year running (except GWS in 2018). He's treading water at best. Glad to see you think he'll go next year if he repeats this year.. if not for the money he'd be gone this year and we all know that

I think that's more realistic

$100k per year paid by the MFC? No one will take him on those figures. $200k per year and you might get a nibble if very lucky. The problem with T Mac is that he was "fit to play" most of 2020 and could not make the team in front of Preuss and Brown both who would be on less than half Tom's money.