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That is doable for Freo: 2022 first (#13) and first 2023 (#11 - #14) first and North's 2023 second (#19 - #21) from the Logue/Tucker trade and we may need to give something back; a 3rd round pick maybe... That is not dissimilar to Kelly to WCE who gave two first and two second round picks: #14, 18, 24 and 33 but got back #52 and a future 3rd round pick. While Jackson is worth a lot more than Kelly I'd do the two firsts and one second deal.

That surprises me. I kinda expect that from a Tabloid and other 'ambulance chasers' but the ABC... So, the accused is done for either way: 1) no response to email/phone and it sounds like they are dodging the subject but 2) given little time to adequately respond and have their reputation trashed and career potentially ruined. The best anyone can do in those circumstances is to deny everything and that creates another click bait headline making the accused look worse.

Fair enough. But 24 hours notice in an email sent to his office which he may not check regularly during the off season. I wonder if the phone message was to his office phone or mobile or how much more time was offered. For me the opportunity provided to respond to such serious allegations was very limited. To me it looks the equivalent of a journalist thrusting a microphone in someone's face demanding explanations on something they know little if anything about.

According to Caroline Wilson, the journalist sent questions to the 'General' email address for North and Brisbane on Monday ie less than 48 hours before publication. Not sure how well they are staffed post season. I didn't get the impression Clarkson and Fagan were directly contacted by the journalist. Maybe an email to an info box is enough these days. Given the nature of the allegations I would have thought more would have been done to avoid blindsiding them.

Not sure for the PF. The GF is about $500 per ticket regardless of where the seat is.

I can rattle off at least a dozen names of public figures who have had their reputations trashed and careers lost because accusations have been made that they have no effective opportunity to combat let alone test in court of law. The court of public opinion takes over.

Link please.

We may not need to. He will probably get a 3 year contract from the Bulldogs and his $500 for 2023 is spread over the contract, say at $350-$400 a year.

If Freo relent and let Lobb go to WB then Tomlinson might form part of the Jackson trade in that WB give Freo a better pick for Lobb instead of giving us a pick for Tomlinson, which in turn 'improves' Freo's compensation to us for Jackson. We may end up 'giving away' Tomlinson for very little but getting his $500k off the books and enabling the Jackson deal will probably be worth it.

Agreed. But do we know that Jackson did have access to the HFC report? I don't recall him quoting it or referring to it which one expect if he did have access. I'd be interested to know one way or the other if he did.

We are nearly half way through the season and I'm watching it go down the gurgler because we can't kick straight and don't play four quarters. We make a great start with accurate kicking and then it stops. In our 3 winning games we have kicked 15.26 squandering precious opportunities to build % while other teams capitalise. I fear we are going to miss a double chance or Home Finals.

Were they? I had the impression the ABC story was based on separate interviews by Jackson with HFC players. According to McLachlan last night on AFL 360 the ABC story had info the HFC report did not and vice versa. If the ABC story was based on a leaked HFC report one would expect the content to not vary.

Hunt has more than one string to his bow. He is an important part of the run and carry chain out of defence. Critically, he did a great job as a lock down defender in the first part of the year keeping some of the most dangerous forwards quiet. Before we let him go we need to ensure we have someone to do that lock down role. Hibberd does it very well but his days are numbered. Bowey and Rivers have done it a couple of times. Can they perform that role continuously? Can Woewodin? Nev Jetta is our benchmark for this role. Roos retrained him from a forward to become an elite shut down defender, selflessly sacrificing his own game. That is the level the next lock down person needs to reach both in attitude and performance.

I'm taking the AFL press release as the 'official' word and it said 4 years so I'll leave the Contracts thread as is..

Its important to note the process. HFC asked the external Consultants to review the experiences of its past and current indigenous players. It was effectively a fact finding mission. It didn't ask them to talk to HFC staff or non-indigenous players. It seems the intention was that once they received the Consultant's report they would act on it and if necessary investigate further. They decided to involve the AFL as they probably weren't equipped to undertake investigations which is fair enough. In the meantime the ABC journalist interviewed some of those players and wrote his story on the experiences the three players and families related to him. That ABC story would have blindsided everyone. We don't know how things would have proceeded without it. Then it all hit the fan.

You are both right. If he is picked by another club during the draft we have the option to match the bid. To do this we need draft picks and a list spot in the seniors. If he isn't selected in the draft we can take him as a Cat B rookie without using any draft or rookie picks. This is how we got Monz-Wakefield last year. We are allowed two Cat B rookies. We currently have one so there is room for FE-B.

He was OOC when he came as an FA so his contract with us was either 4 or 5 years.

Firstly, losing Hunt makes me very sad. Re the FA compensation. I would have thought an end of 2nd round pick approx # 37 especially if we do what other clubs do and get the receiving club to make the first two years $ of the contract such that he falls into this category ie top $50% of players.

With no cheeky emoji there I will assume you are serious... If you find an official document saying 5 years I'll change info. Until then the AFL document will stay my official source.

Thank you. I'll start my DL 'offseason' after the Draft and return when training gets serious in the new year.

LOL! I've found multiple reports of both 4 and 5 years. So, I'm going with the official AFL PR at the time he was traded which is 4 years so Contracts thread stays as is. https://www.afl.com.au/news/52273/inaugural-giant-joins-dees-as-free-agent-compensation-revealed. OOC 2023, one year to go.

I'm not sure now. I was taking the report at face value. Silly me! In the Contracts thread I have always shown it as a 4 year contract ie expiring in 2023. I will do more checking before the next version of that update.

Yze may want Williams but why would Williams leave? He is a much valued member of a premiership club. At Ess he would spend his time putting out political spot fires and protecting Adem's back. I would have thought Williams has had a gut full of political stuff in his coaching career and wouldn't care for any more. I reckon he would stay!

Cheers for that. Will fix the icons with next version.