Watts Jurrah Dunn?

I love Jack, but I'd be very surprised if Trengove, Lewis and Tyson all played in the same side on a quick deck at Subi. Let Tyson play the inside midfielder role, bring Vince up to play the outside role and bring Stretch or Wagner in to rotate through wing/half back.

A Josh Kelly/Isaac Smith type would be my first priority. A Ben Brown/Peter Wright type would be my second priority. Then I'd like another Jeff Garlett or two.

Spencer must surely go down as the biggest list clogger in the history of the AFL? How long's he been on the list and the Football Department still don't even have faith in him to ruck at Senior Level? What a joke that we've held onto him as long as we have and they would prefer to go into an 8 point match with a 193cm journeyman and very little structure.

Bruise free footy. How no one runs to Taylor Adams and knocks him over after his corridor turnovers lead to goals, I'll never know. Our season is on the line and they play like netballers. Very nice to play against, these Dees.

May is a good player, and if we were right on the cusp of a flag tilt he'd be worth paying the $700k and first rounder that it will take to pry a captain from a club. But we are not that close. Vince and Lewis are almost done. Who knows about Brayshaw's future. Use the first rounder on a quick, classy outside midfielder and offer Jack Leslie $250k a year for the next 3 years and give Gold Coast a pick 40.

What is Wagner doing on an AFL List? NEAFL player at best!

He's a key position player and the captain of the club, so I don't think a combination of 2nd and 3rd round picks with NQR's like Kent, Watts etc. will get it done. Gold Coast would ask for our first pick (10ish) and a starting midfielder. They'd ask for Salem and hopefully you could get away with Tyson. I agree he's better than what we've got right now but are Frost and the McDonald's developing that poorly to give Pick 10 and Tyson for a 26 year old? I really like May as a player and he has some real mongrel, but with Vince and Lewis almost done, and our only Ruck/Forward (Pedersen) 30 as well, I'd have other priorities.

For those that missed it, Sam Maclure asked Garry later in the program "You've brought May up twice this morning in relation to Melbourne...what do you know?". Lyon said he knew nothing other than May was "very gettable". Personally, giving our first pick and $600k+ for May (who plays next year as a 26 year old) wouldn't be my first priority. I appreciate you can't have too many good players but we have absolutely glaring deficiencies with outside midfield pace, and a genuine 200cm forward/ruck. I'd be fixing those gaping holes first. Alex Rance wouldn't have done much on Brown yesterday with the way it was being walked in through the corridor.

Personally I'd prefer Goodwin put a ban on any player doing any optional media work for the rest of the year. Cancel the distractions, the big noting, the egos. On field results attract sponsors, not head wobble articles like this. Double down and work bloody hard on being more than a 10th placed side.

Vince doesn't get frees because the umpires know he's the boy that cried wolf. Throws his head back and drops to the ground whenever someone touches him, so of course he's not going to get the ones he deserves. Get over it. We have bigger problems.

Playing 3 short with a 193 journeyman as a ruckman, and Weid and Omac being gifted AFL games to develop when they should be at Casey until 2019. Throw in a couple of soft cox in Watts and Kent who only like it on theIr terms, and you can hardly be surprised by today's result. The list management, to have 4 genuine ruckman on the list, and no 200+cm Forward / Ruck, is simply diabolical. What I'd give for a Ben Brown.

What garbage. Big difference between visualising success and drinking your own bath water. Petracca, Oliver, Watts are guilty of the latter.

When you see threads like this on Demonland, Clayton Oliver Brownlow articles, Jack Watts on the footy show and our players/coaches assure us that "we will prepare for their best", a bad loss is coming.

The Dogs are so good at ensuring only 1 goes up in those packs. Even when they go forward, there'd be 3 eagles going up to mark, and the 1 dog that went up simply made sure they punched it and brought it to ground to the crumbers who surge it forward. Also remarkable, given how much they handball, how rarely it is to a flat footed teammate. They seem to all have handball skills like Clayton Oliver and always put it to a teammate's advantage. I like the look of that Bailey Dale as a potential outside midfielder / winger. Won't get a game when all the others come back, and they are chocca block with skilful half forward flankers.

You're right. Let's stick with tough insiders with terrible skills.

I don't think Goodwin would play favourites, but I have no doubts that when you endorse and headhunt someone into your organisation, and give a sh1tload up to get them, you're going to give that person every chance in the world to prove themselves, otherwise you look like a clown for bringing them in. I didn't think JKH and ANB were too bad last week. With every other forward kicking 3+ I just want these guys to be clean with the ball and put the opposition under pressure. I thought they did that ok. For mine it would be Hogan, Wagner and Stretch in for O McDonald, Melksham and Tyson. Couldn't give a toss how that deadbeat Worsfold voted in the coaches awards.

If Joel Smith comes on like we hope, we are going to have 3 very special athletic defenders in Frost, Hunt and Smith. They will be perfect for aggressive setups and zones with their unbelievable closing speed and leaps.

Do the people quoting Tyson's statistics actually watch the game?

Massive mistake, wasn't it!? Let's hope we don't miss the 8 by a game or two. Got it wrong with Weideman, who should have to kick consecutive bags of goals for a month at Casey before he displaces Pedersen. Heck, I'd have even preferred an undersized Pedersen to Spencer! Pedo is a mature body, gives a contest, can play anywhere, and he's one of those battlers that is always playing for his AFL life so of course he's going to give 100%. I wonder why Goodwin had his card marked so early?

Quickest deck in the league against the quickest side in the league. Not sure how you can play Tyson and Lewis. Would certainly prefer a 15 possession Stretch game with some defensive running and zip to a 20 possession Tyson game. Not in the inner sanctum so I don't know how he's measured or how he's pulled up, but to drop the only thing we have close to a zippy, run-all-day wingman for this match is baffling.

The thing I don't mind about Bugg is that he was a back-pocket in his time at GWS. So he adds a bit of versatility. Essendon are strong in the small forwards department so if Fantasia or Green got a hold of Jetta or Melksham, at least Bugg could provide another option down back.

You're such a limited football observer if you think Tyson's issues are purely pre-season related. He can't run, his field kicking is terrible and he is nowhere near aggressive enough. GWS knew which one to let go. Tyson was great in year 1, when the opposition had no idea who he was, and he was only competing against Nathan Jones as that first-possession midfielder. The opposition now know he's a left footer and that he doesn't have a right side, meanwhile Oliver and Viney have now gone ahead of him and he has no other strings to his bow. With Lewis back this week, I hope Goodwin sends Tyson back to Casey. You can't play all our slow mids at Etihad against the lightning fast bombers. We will almost certainly have to trade one of them out at the end of the year.

Mate Gawn was touted as a possible first round pick. He was 208cm, and his bottom age highlights were clunking marks at full forward. Mitch King is 200cm, hardly a rare size for a ruckman, and wasn't in a single phantom draft. You're comparing apples and oranges. Using spots on the primary list for King and Spencer is terrible, terrible list management. Every year a better ruckman is delisted from another club and could be picked up for nothing.

Different if they are 208cm and can mark like gawn could. Spencer's years on the primary list are an unmitigated disaster. List clogging at its best.

It's his second year and his first was spent on the sidelines from his second acl. He was on the long term injury list just a few months ago yeah? And don't get me started on why a beanpole ruckman is even on our primary list. Should have been rookied at best. There are better ruckmen delisted each year. Not sure why we bother giving the Spencer's and kings of the world 6-8 years on the primary list.