Watts Jurrah Dunn?

A small part of me is pleased we got a touch up going into the bye. We can give the Premiership and 'perfect list' stuff a rest for a couple of weeks and work our backsides off rather than drink our own bath water. Theres no doubt the fixture has flattered us and we've got a few glaring holes to fill. Not only do we desperately need a run-all-day wingman like Gaff but we desperately need midfielders with some pace. We love them, but get it outside of Oliver, Viney, Jones, Brayshaw etc and it's Christmas if you're a mid with some acceleration like Treloar, De Goey and Adams found today. We need a Shuey/Shiel type. Heck bring Aaron Hall in on the cheap. I hope Goodwin's obsession with contest doesn't see us miss a pacey outside type, who by their very nature are not strong at contested ball. The cake is built now and it's time to add some run and class. With Lewis, Vince, Jetta and even Hibberd all closer to the end than than the beginning, and Wagner not exactly a dasher, we also need a few half back flankers that can run and kick. Hopefully by the end of the season Hunt and Baker can provide a bit of dash.

Petracca won't even need a shower after this one.

Collingwood way too quick. Real pity Hunt has gone backward and Frost hasn't come on.

Petracca trying to kick the cover off the ball again. A simple centre to Hogan goes 10m over his head. Tries the drilling ball a minute later and kicks it along the ground. Plays like a millionaire.

Gawn clearly a target of Collingwood. Just bumping into him every chance they get. Too nice, big Maxy. Should have killed Langdon on the wing when he had the sit and Langdon was fully outstretched running back. Should have made a real statement.

For a full time, $400k a year footballer, that we included a pick 2 to recruit, playing against plumbers and electricians. Yeah wow.

Garlett was afraid to take possession of the ball against Richmond. He's a cat. Cant be trusted and is almost 29. No future at all. Hunt far too talented and young to have him rotting in the 2s.

Would prefer to try Hunt forward over Garlett. No future in Jeffey. Hunt would at least chase and tackle like his life depends on it, and from memory he was a tricky match up and kicked a couple when he was thrown forward last year. Play him in a position where he can still use his athletic traits but his poor field kicking isn't as obvious - just like TMac.

WB, we missed finals last year by 2 goals, copped all the rhetoric from players about how 'every moment counts', and we know you're going to be able to throw a blanket over ladder positions 5-10 at the end of this season as well. Percentage is bound to decide spots again. People have every right to be upset with a drop-off late in games. I'd be disappointed in our supporters if they were happy with a team that clearly lacks the ability to keep the foot on the throat.

Roos on MMM: He's got some real penetration now in his kicking, Dom. When he first got to the club he had a couple of knee dislocations but he's been able to build his legs right up and he's got some real penetration now. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

Hope Garlett stays at Casey until he plays well out there in the driving rain on a freezing day. It's no coincidence that he hasn't got anywhere near it against good sides in the rain and dew. He's the definition of not being able to trust Melbourne in big games and we're playing one short unless conditions are perfect and/or pressure is low. Fingers crossed Spargo can go past him quickly .

David Mackay and Marc Murphy would provide some of the run we so desperately need. Menzel would provide some of the smart finishing we so desperately need. We need to be involved when players like Saad and Impey request trades. We seemed to put all our eggs in the Lever basket. I think the reputations of Gawn, Petracca and Hogan far outweigh what they produce on the field for us. I think there is no point in having a "quality" ruckman or key forward when the midfield has no pace or class, so I'd certainly see what you can get for them. Gaff will be useless sitting out there on a wing when we don't have the kicking skills or pace off half back or in the midfield to break a line or switch the play and get it to him.

The bath has been empty for ages mate and the baby is now a teenager. This sh*t has been going on for far too long. Time to clear out the last players from the dark days and start again. Find a competitive physical ruckman on the cheap like Richmond did. Gawn will have trade value higher than what he offers MFC on field. The Lever trade is diabolically bad given the holes in our midfield. Gotta get back into the early part of the draft and it's going to take a Gawn, Hogan or Petracca to do that.

vandenBerg McKenna JKH Johnstone Vince Lewis Maynard Garlett Pedersen Harmes Kent Bugg Trade Jones out of respect and shop Gawn to see if you can bring in a midfielder that can run and kick. Gawn is the most overrated player in the AFL. Zero to show for his ruck "dominance" and played better last year with him not there.

In: Spargo, Baker, Fritsch, Hannan, Petty Out: Garlett, Harmes, Vince, Kent, Stretch

Garlett should never play for the club again. He is an absolute cat. Some of his efforts tonight were disgusting.

Why move him up to the box if he was doing such a terrific job for the past 2 years?

An absolutely embarrassing and bewildering press conference from Gawn. Staggering that he would feel the need to air our dirty laundry so publicly and admit that Hawthorn won the mental battle and have a mental edge over us. Between the camp and this sort of talk, you would just be licking your lips coming up against Melbourne as an opposition player.

He was very fumbly and ordinary on wings and flanks in AFLX and JLT1. When they threw him into the middle to play the inside mid role against the Saints he was very good. He's an inside midfielder. I wish they'd play him there. Obviously Oliver and Viney are ahead of him in that role but I can't work out for the life of me why you'd play Maynard ahead of him. He's also a few years younger than Tyson and has more of a future than him. Jones and Lewis shouldn't have to play inside anymore with all these young bulls. I see Oliver, Viney, Brayshaw with cameos from Petracca as being the 10 year midfield. I wish they'd play him because right now Brayshaw at 3 and Weideman at 9 look very ordinary picks.

Yeah Weideman at 9, 4 picks before Curnow was a shocker. You get that one right and we are on our way. You'd just love to know how keen we were before the drink driving thing, which was probably setup by Carlton.

Should have kicked 6. Missed two sitters and gave away one in the goalsquare. Looks a terrific prospect and should go past Bugg and Harmes reasonably quickly. Appears to have X factor with his marking, and the quick snap goal while being tackled showed he's good at ground level as well. All that 'weak draft that falls off a cliff after pick 15' stuff looks wrong already.

We haven't played finals for a decade mate. Question everything the football dept do. If Goodwin plays Pederson early last year ahead of Spencer and Tim Smith, we play finals. If Taylor calls out Charlie Curnow instead of Sam Wiedeman a couple of years back, we play finals. They are not always right. Too many sycophants on here.

Here it is simplified for you. We are out of the super draft next year, so there's another opportunity gone to get a quality midfielder. 3 of our mids are almost done. Only 2 are proven AFL midfielders and will be there in 2020 when we are beating down the door. We don't need another half forward flanker or key position defender. Constable or Petruccelle at 31, and Worpol at 37 would have been better selections given our lack of midfield depth.

Jones missed 6 weeks last year with a quad and has already done a calf this pre-season. Vince is borderline best 22 and has 1 left. Lewis has 1 good season and 1 ordinary season left. Salem and Brayshaw are far from proven, bona fide afl mids capable of playing 20 good games a season. When Viney misses, as we saw last season - it all falls onto Oliver's shoulders. There is not enough depth. I hope Brayshaw and Salem finally begin to justify their draft ranking, and that Maynard, vandenBerg and Harmes come on to help this. I like the look of Petty, but it certainly wasn't a need. Our key defenders are young and developing. The way they have pumped games into him, our FD seem to have great faith in Oscar as a long term prospect. Unlike the midfield, no one retires in a year or two, in fact they'll just be entering their prime. Petty now develops behind Oscar, Lever, Frost and Keilty, who have 8-10 years ahead of them. Who knows how Tom Mac goes as a forward when the oppposition start putting work into him as a forward. I also see no need to bring in a medium forward who is a clone of Mitch Hannan. Fritsch needs two seasons in the gym and has not proven himself of being able to pinch hit in the midfield at VFL level. Once he puts on 8 kilos, will he be good enough to dislodge Petracca, Hannan, Melksham, ANB, Harmes, Bugg etc from a half forward flank? We have them coming out of our ears! Anyway, good luck to them and I hope I'm wrong, but for mine, Fritsch and Petty picks should have been Pettrucelle and Worpol.

Tom Mac will be Forward 5 minutes if Weideman comes on mate. How many backs do you need? Richmond and the Bulldogs have won flags with how many dominant Key Positions Forwards? Matches are won and lost in the midfield. We added a dwarf 170cm forward mid, and an outside winger that averages 16 touches in the NEAFL. Petrucelle and Worpol were still on the board. I hope I'm wrong, but I see the midfield as seriously lacking depth in a year or two when Vince, Jones and Lewis are gone.