Watts Jurrah Dunn?

Mumford absolutely bullying our miss around the contest. Has thrown a few of them around like rag dolls. Max is just too nice.

Absolutely obliterated around the ball. Forget Lever. Mids, mids, mids.

Agreed. Lever's Manager meeting with the Dees would be one thing. Lever himself meeting with officials and players, in season, is enormous. He's gone.

Lever is a beauty but I'm not sure how he'd go one-out against Ben Brown, Joe Daniher etc? Are there any statistics on how much time he's actually spent on the number 1 forward? I was under the impression Talia is doing that job? The contested marking is infuriating. The Hawks did it so well the other night. It seems they are experienced enough to block/protect/not all get hands to the exact same ball and spoil one another and leave no one down. None of our talls are strong enough overhead. Gawn's a foot taller than most so of course he takes a couple. Watts and Hogan are useless overhead. I thought Hogan was supposed to be a contested marking beast?

If our first pick this year is pick 12-14 and next year is 14-16, I think we'll definitely have to give up two first rounders. We don't have prized top 5/10 picks anymore. Lever is 21. He's a KPP. He has 200 games ahead of him and we're supposedly offering to pay him A-Grade / Elite money. He was pick 14 purely because of his knee and missing the year as an 18 year old, and his value has gone through the roof since then, so he's worth much more than pick 12-14 this year in what is supposedly a weak draft. He might nominate us, but if he feels as though he owes Adelaide there's also a chance he asks for Adelaide to be well compensated. Brian Waldron gave that example on SEN yesterday with Aaron Hamill in discussing Josh Kelly's situation and North playing for pick 1.

5+ years at $800K+ = 2 first rounders

You'd like to think so. But the middle is probably this years first rounder and ANB, or this years first rounder and next years second rounder. I'm not sure you could offer him 5+ years at $800k a year but then tell the Crows he's not worth anymore than pick 12 in what is regarded as a weak draft.

JKH was ok. He certainly wasn't excellent. Very little impact on the game. Very little damage with his disposals. Lots of dinky chips and handpasses. Don't get seduced by numbers.

Can't keep playing this catch up football. You can't hold the good sides goalless for long enough to catch up. Had to start well and the poor misses early by Garlett and Kent really hurt. Should have had 3.0 instead of 1.2. The first quarter from our so called stars like Gawn, Petracca, Hogan and Oliver was really poor. Just need to draft quick and skilful midfielders. McKay and Cameron murdered us on the outside. We need midfielders that can run and kick and won't just bomb it in there. Leave me out of selling the farm for Lever.

It's just selfish footy. It stinks of "I'll run around tonight and clip a few of me old teammates, stir them up a bit for a laugh next time I'm on the beers with them".

Just woeful leadership. The end comes quickly.

Should have left Gawn in Melbourne. Terribly out of touch. He is not the answer at FF as they will just keep bombing it and playing into Adelaide's hands. Been absolutely spanked the last few weeks, Gawn.

Just woeful entries into our forward line. Seems to be the way when Hogan is in the side and he just calls for it on his head. Getting smashed in the middle. Is Petracca playing?

Vince just so undisciplined. Kent such a dud.

Perhaps Tom McDonald would play the Blicavs big-bodied midfielder role or the hard running, strong marking winger role Riewoldt has played over the past few years. He's got the tank, and certainly his kicking isn't as much of a liability if they get him up the ground. Super impressive game from Lever last night. He just makes the right decisions every time, and executes perfectly almost every time. He's like a taller, 21 year old version of Hibberd. What a pity Trengove's foot didn't heal and we couldn't get that pick 12. Encouraging that Taylor rated him so damn highly.

Lots of talk about the money for Lever, but no consideration given to what you'd have to give in the trade. $850k a year means AT LEAST a 1st and 2nd round draft pick. It's probably more like first round picks in 2 consecutive drafts given this draft is apparently shallow. Lewis and Vince are almost done, Jones has to slow down soon, Brayshaw is a question mark. Those that want Lever at any cost must love watching ANB, Harmes, Bugg etc run around up the other end? I'd be recruiting midfield class to force the NQR's to "depth" status. Heck, for $150k more a year and similar draft picks you could go for Josh Kelly and get the type of player we really need.

So if this is an injury that he's carried for most of the year, and 4 games in 18 days and a 6 day break back from Perth had the potential to make the injury worse, and he also had a sore shoulder from the week before, why wasn't he rested for the Sydney match?

The only list Kent will be on next year is Peel Thunder's. A dumb, lazy footballer, and that was before he went out drinking while on the cusp of selection. For a bloke whose only trick is a deadly left leg, he's useless in front of goal, as per the game he cost us against Geelong. He can't mark above his head and has no endurance. To say Wagner has played super footy is just laughable. He screams NEAFL. Some of these guys will be saved by the fact they reckon there are only about 30-40 draftable players in this years pool, but to claim they are quality depth is laughable. They are typical pick 60/rookie players. It's no one's fault, but you've just got to turn them over regularly so you do find the occasional Hunt, TMac, Hannan etc.

Wagner is a VFL player. Where are all the supporters that keep saying he is a Matt Suckling-type of kick? A 35th-on-your-list at best.

Ultimately our depth will be fixed over the next 2-3 drafts, so that Bugg, ANB, Tyson, Melksham and Harmes spend most of their time at Casey, rather than being regular best-22 players. They're no good. When these guys are the ones you see after 4-5 injuries, we'll be on our way. Just give Taylor a clear run at first and second round picks and don't go burning 2 first rounders on a player like Lever, and we'll be ok in 2019.

Fans have to look beyond 20 possessions from a midfielder as a good game. We get 400 as a team, so everyone is a chance to get 20. I thought Lewis' undisciplined free kicks in the 3rd were atrocious leadership. We needed calm heads and the late high spoil for the 50m penalty, and the blatant push into Petrie, were just dumb. Thought he was just ok again.

6. Viney 5. T McDonald 4. Vince 3. Oliver 2. Hannan 1. Harmes

Poor effort from Pedo and any other talls that were in the area when McGovern got Hunt. Harmes and ANB the only ones to fly the flag. Needed Gawn to throw McGovern over the fence.

I think the guru's thought that Essendon's demands for a 1st round pick were overs for a 27 year old, and the fact that we did pay overs for Melksham meant a 2nd round pick was about right. Absolutely love Hibberd. I was telling Melbourne supporters over pre-season that he's like a taller, deadlier-kicking version of Jetta. Rarely beaten. Lethal kick. Nice dose of sh*t about him. You just feel comfortable when he's near the ball. It's a real pity one of his years as a prime mover was wiped out. Hopefully he can add that year onto the back end of his career. If his body holds up I think he'll be top 3 in the Bluey for the next 3 seasons.

Why are clubs so keen to lure Crow Jake Lever? If Lever does leave Adelaide and clubs are willing to pay him $800,000 a year on a long term deal, then it looks like it will take a similar trade to the Treloar deal. Possibly even more given KPD are harder to find than midfielders, and our picks over the next 2 years are not going to be as high as what the Pies' picks were. That deal was Treloar and a 2nd round pick for a 1st Round Pick in 2 drafts. What do people think about potentially giving pick 10-12 this year and pick 12-16 next year for Lever? Taylor's love for Lever and picks like Hannan at 46 make me think he'd be able to find a couple of pretty handy midfielders with these 1st round picks?