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yeh I understand. But I do agree with some of what he says. Often find myself yelling the same thing over and over. I do try and support the cheer squad too

done and done

Would like to have a talk with you someday. Im away at the moment but normally sit in N3 at the G

And is it ever too cold to practice kicking a goal?????

Lets hope its not too cold when we play the pies!

Im feeling a bit remote being in Japan at present. Upside is I am having plenty of time to review Dland, (or unfortunate for Picket fence who I have been trying to get to training and see if he can improve kicking) however....... I was surprised to see, in the fresh fruit market of Kanasawa (along with some mysterious items that may have been fruit, vegetable, mineral or plastic facsimiles) all labelled in JApanese (a language as foreign to me as Collingwood praise) bananas wrapped in cellophane. They were wrapped individually in packs of two and packs of three. I purchased a pack of two but couldnt release them from the cellophane. The wonderful sales person, (seeing my difficulty) cut the wrapping with a fine shinto blade and with much gesturing and pointing, instructed and assisted me in the disposal of the wrapping and the peel. Every aspect of the transaction was done with such authority and efficiency that I feel she could assist the players in goal kicking, Alternatively she could immediately take over the Lever role in the back line< her gesturing was very much above par.

Thanks. Just referenced you in another thread to get down to training. Youve got some good techniques and there are some interesting ideas coming from others that you should be able to present.

Did you get to practice Picket \? I really feel there are some good suggestions here and if you were not gilding the lilly you should be able to get some real traction with the boys. I have seen how passionate you have been over the years and would be great to see the club embrace some DLand love.

GW is Picket fence there to ais goal kicking discussion?

Im sure you can suggest that when you talk about their Kicking for goal. Id support you with that as well. By the way Hows Jeffos kicking action? Saw a comment which seemed to say he was ok.

I like some of what you say but my team B: Lever May, McVee HB SAlem T Mac Bowey C Windsor Oliver LanGdon HF Lindsay Turner Sparrow F Fritsch JVR Pickett Fol Gawn Petracca Viney/Rivers Ic Langford Chandler Jefferson LAurie /Rivers ?Sestan Sub Petty Lever May the old team need to get there mojo working Tmac provides the reliable tall Salem Bowey Mc Vee tighten up the smalls Turner or Petty can be changed back if needed Fritsch and Jefferson rotate off bench as do Langford Lindsay Chandler and Sparrow pinch hit rotation Rivers defiite in depends on Viney condition Maybe Sestan instaed of Laurie but wary of too many inexperienced against hardened Brutal Pies.

Pickett Get down to the ground and give em some coaching .. See the goody thread.

Touche. The topic (we must kick more goals ) is and PF aside the answer not so.

It is indeed an interesting problem. I and others have been wanting some force and vigour shown but I think more than any other club we have an acute awareness of how that vigour must be applied. Therefore I think the club should publicly defend the penalty and institute some training protocols for all our players. We could ask the AFL to assist us in this endeavour by examining the many contradictory approaches of other players over the last few years, not just our club but all clubs. We can also ask the tribunal for some assistance in this vexed issue and seek some clarity on the decisions of (the whatever title he has) Christian to explain the definition of football act and how that is applied. Beginning players like JVR and AJ seem to be more harshly reviewed and sanctioned than other more experienced players, so perhaps the tribunal sees this as part of its development role. It could be reminded that older more experienced players in fact set the example of football acts and perhaps they need to be included in that training and development issue. A file of Maynard and Collingwood vigour over the last few years would be an admirable place to start. I am sure there are some technological experts on DLand who could provide a folder of evidence.

Well Im still positive. I've had my issues with strategy, structure, selections and gameplans, but I must say that a team that beats Brisbane Sydney etc, should be able to beat most teams. Why dont they??? Well wish I knew and with the dominance that we showed against Hawthorn and the shots at goal we have created all my concerns are really almost seen as irrelevant. My mate Ive been going to the games with for years has maintained our skill levels are deficient for most years even when we have won. Kicking is a part of the skill set footballers must have. It can be practised and it can be improved. Pickett Fence has given some excellent advice and I really would encourage him to approach the coaching staff, perhaps with GW in attendance to add support and have a serious discussion with the professionals who should as PF states be able to have that discussion in an unthreatening and informative fashion. Perhaps he can teach the new generation something or perhaps they can add to his and GW knowledge. Id be interested in he outcomes of that approach. Also technique and Biomechanics aside, (which you'd reckon the new age coaches would be all over),the mind is a mighty fragile at times thing (for want of a better word). Obviously it can and is mighty strong for all elite performers. Surely the club has people who are able to address this portion of goal kicking and provide measures to fix this Fn issue. We must kick more goals. its pretty bloody simple. Goals not only instil confidence they also apply pressure on opponents. Get to it Goody. Most of us are with you and if we can kick more goals than our opponents every week we will all be with you.

Im certainly not a Petty hater and would certainly never say he is not invested. But I feel he is over rated. He has had some really good games and some really ordinary games. I thought last week he often ran around looking for an opponent. He was often pointing and was late to contests. He did contribute to some packs and disrupted other players in bringing the ball to ground. He also contributed in the last term by having 2 opponents which freed someone up. It meant he often took 2 players away from the contest. Whether this was by design or just an outcome of Sydneys set up I dont know.. we were so dominant that I was not sure what he contributed. other than that. I have been selecting him as the sub as I feel he can add real value to attack or defence (although I think he is a better more natural defender.) he can add a real alternative weapon as sub to eitrher end and he is not too shabby on the ground. I have seen him lope around and also seen him close ground quickly so has spped and endurance. There is no doubt he has value which may be why Adelaide expressed interest last year.

Yeah I was there Disco was great and has been forward or back Windsor just seemed a little bit slower and not his usual smooth self. surprised he had 24 and would need to watch replay to see how many effective. I love him but he just seemed a bit off pace at the game. Maybe does need to play again to get back to pace, so will have to reconsider/\. I am sure the coaches know whats going on and where the players are at and what they need. Ive still got plenty of faith in them as long as they play with the intensity and desperation hat is needed.

I reckon its pretty easy INTENSITY!!!!!!! As the team realised we would need to win they all began to do what they were being told

Thats too close to MFC reality really.

Probabaly put Disco forward for that to work Consider Sestan for Windsor who looked like he could do with a bit more recovery to get back to his usual best,

good option Id also put TMac in for Petty and make Petty the sub

good problem with so many to choose. Good to get May and Lever back in sync. unless TMac wanted the rest and is managed I would put Petty into Sub. He can play forward or back and could replace Fritta who would be in team if he didnt play with intensity

Ryan was fantastic in Perth. Not only generously giving time to MC the interview and formalities but also giving plenty of time to us four randoms who had made the trip from Melbourne. Then leading the cheer squad with the best example I have ever seen in making our small portion of the crowd impose a significant chant. It was a master class in cheer squad practice and while the Eagles supporters may be a little ignorant in how to support their team, the DEmons squad took all the points. We usually sit in the seats above and behind the squad at the G but being closer to the squad in Perth was afeal pleasure. Ryan is a legend and the squad are fantastic

Id be keeping Tholstrup and Fullarton, they need exposure and West Coast are an appropriate opponent. ie not Collingwood. Rest Salem, HE was good in last 2 games and knows the pace and intensity required so managed. Id have JVR as forward only as suggested above with a licence to roam Jeremy Cameron style. AJ would be in the side to add aggression to forward line and relieve Max. Maybe Disco back to defence. Fritta to forward line. Jeffo to take the role if he doesnt perform, but id prefer he gets up for the bigger games. Chandler a bit unfortunate as he does need to keep his desire and pressure, plays same role as Spargo who needs the extra exposure this game and maybe replaced by Chin for Collingwood after a rest managed again. Rivers rotate with Tholstrup or through mids (Viney) if needed. Sparrow rotates with Tracc. Langford rotates with Oliver and mids. Lindsay rotates with Windsor Spargo. PIckett rotates with this group as well. Langdon goes all day but can be included in rotations with Windsor Lindsay etc. Id have Petty as sub and bring him on as forward or defence if needed to replace injury or identified weakness. Ie Turner, May, AJ, Fullarton, or Fritsch B: Turner, May, McVee HB: Tholstrup, McDonald, Bowey C: Langdon, Oliver, Windsor HF: Petracca, van Rooyen, Spargo F: Fullarton, AJ, Fritsch FOLL: Gawn, Viney, Pickett IC: Langford, Lindsay, Sparrow, Rivers SUB: Petty

Thats the trouble. MFC gets fined for any sign of aggression. Its part of putting on pressure. Collingwood do nothing but aggressively apply pressure and nothing gets done . Pies players bump off the ball and even when you are out of play. makes opposition tentative and release the ball quickly when off balance. Hawthorn and Geelong put on more pressure than any game ive seen for a while. tackles were hard elbows and fists were always backing up a contact. An elbow to the head when an opponent on the ground all part of the pressure. Commentators applaud that hardness at the ball. The opposition are not your mates they are not your friends hit em hard. If we are going to be penalised for that then make the league aware that other sides must also be treated the same.