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I'll take him if they take Kolodjashnij, Neitschke, Bedford & Chandler.

Harley's decision to leave the hub makes it pretty clear to me that he wasn't expecting to play on next year, and this seems to be supported by his actions after the event. He tried, we tried, it didn't work out as we had hoped, but it wasn't a failure either. We move on and hopefully Harley has something to fall back on as well to keep himself out of trouble.

Average player who doesn't work nearly hard enough. Averaged just 8 disposals, 2.3 marks, 0.8 goals and 1.7 tackles in 2020. Dropped three times in his last four games this year. He has had numerous opportunities over the past three years, so if we're going to be ruthless with our list, he'd be a strong candidate for delisting.

Best of luck, Jack, for whatever your future holds. I was sad to see you leave and I hope that you still consider yourself a demon. Truly one of the nicest players I have met at family days and wonderful with the younger supporters.

You can't trade out every key position player on the list. He's a keep for me.

I wouldn't be upset if Preuss left but we need (a) to get something decent in return and (b) another ready made backup ruckman. I can't see Bradtke making it, even if he is still on the list next year and I doubt that Jackson has the size to be anything more than a part time option. Gawn's age and injury history make a genuine backup essential.

Is this a serious consideration? We already have one tall, thinly built witches hat in the forward line who can only take a mark on the lead and is useless when the ball hits the ground. Why would we want another? And if it came down to a choice between Weideman and Brown, I'd take the one who is five years younger and whose pay packet is half the size. Interesting also how many people have written off Tom McDonald, but imagine that Brown will miraculously return to form in new colours.

Congratulations to Christian Petracca, a very worthy winner after a consistently excellent season. That said, I would have been very happy to see Steven May win, if only to break the stranglehold that midfielders have had over the award over the past 18 years. Perhaps we need an award just to recognise our best performing defender each year. The results of Hibberd, Lever and particularly Melksham show the positive impact that a well managed demotion can have on an underperforming player. Hibberd took his dropping well, worked hard on his game and was a strong contributor when he returned to the team. Melksham was allowed to coast along for an entire season without consequence, and never once came close to performing at an acceptable level.

Three down, hopefully at least six more to come. Best of luck to Josh, Corey and Kyle, but these were inevitable and essential delistings.

It's weird how we have millions of dollars of coaching and development "talent" on the books but, instead of putting them to work to find out why McDonald and others have regressed in recent seasons, we want to take the easy way out and trade them for peanuts. There are posters on this forum who have never rated Tom and that's their right, but he was our best defender for several years, then he went forward and kicked more than 50 goals in a season (the only MFC player to do so this decade). The guy can seriously play, and you don't get rid of your better players on the back of one poor season. Like others I want to know what has happened to Tom this year, and I want the club to fix it. Trading him would be a cop out and a big mistake and I will be furious if we do so.

I like it. If we try really, really hard over the next few months, I'm sure we can have a list with May, Lever, Gawn and 37 small / medium forwards for next year.

I was all for the club recruiting Harley at the start of this year, and I think that both the club and Harley have done everything that could have been asked of them until this point. That said, this is a simply unforgivable error of judgment from a player who has been given multiple chances by multiple clubs over the past decade. We are no at a point where his performances and potential outweigh the risk of keeping him on the list beyond the season. If he can't be trusted to make good decisions now with his AFL future at stake and in a highly controlled environment, how can we possibly trust him over the pre season with a brand new contract and left to his own devices? This club doesn't have a spare $50,000 to waste fixing this guy's mistakes and the last thing we need as we try to resign sponsors and 40K members is this type of bad publicity. Thanks for your efforts Harley, but you're done here.

Clearly there is a fair portion of the membership base that is pretty unhappy with this situation. Will the club bother responding at some point? Other than fluff pieces, communication with members has been pretty ordinary this year, although I get that staffing has been reduced. It is one thing to donate the value of a standard membership to the club. It is entirely another to fork out additional money for reserved seats, grand final guarantees and other add-ons that have provided zero value during the year. If these aren't delivered, then they should carry forward to future years at no cost.

I think he is probably done, but I'd still have him at the club ahead of any Bedford, Kolodjashnij, Jordon, Nietschke, Chandler, Wagner x2 and Dunkley and probably half a dozen others as well. It really depends on whether the club is collectively going to put its big boy pants on and make some hard decisions at year end. If we prune a lot of dead wood on the list, then I don't have an issue with Jones getting one more year to support what would be a lot of new players. If we only make a few changes, then the need for an experienced mentor-type is significantly reduced.

https://womens.afl/news/51858/suns-or-lions-aflw-cult-hero-eyes-move-north An update on Sarah Perkins - a big loss, as our inability to translate midfield dominance into goals is our number 1 issue. Hopefully Tegan Cunningham can rediscover her mojo.

If we're trading anyone for Saad it should be Salem.

On talent yes, but definite no in terms of workrate, value for money and quality of person.

We're saving money by making Victorian clubs travel interstate several times a year? Makes sense.

I received two emails as well. I understand that clubs are finding life difficult, but I'm pretty unimpressed that the best they can offer members is a price freeze when we received zero value for money in 2020. The price rises in the past 3 - 4 years have been significant, and certainly haven't been matched by the performances on the field.

Corr is the calibre of player you would be happy to get as a delisted free agent for a couple of years, but no way you would consider on a long term, big dollar contract.

Far better to focus on a couple of Langdon-quality players at $500K each than paying up to $1M for Crouch.

Gunston would be a great get and, if we could offset this by clearing out some of our excess mid-sized forwards at the same time, it would be a double bonus.

The Herald Sun is reporting that Collingwood and Mihocek are miles apart on a contract renewal. As a latecomer to the AFL this contract clearly needs to be a big payday for him, but I can't imagine he is holding our for ridiculous money. We clearly lack a link between our midfield and forward line, and have done since Hogan left. Mihocek is a hard worker and could be a decent option at a reasonable price. Not sure what we need to give to Collingwood, although they owe us plenty for Kennedy, Dawes and Lumumba.

There is no point trading Viney (or Brayshaw for that matter) for anything other than a ready made player that meets a pressing need right now. Why take a draft pick or developing player that may help us several years down the track, if indeed they actually make it. That said, I wish we had access to Geelong's unlimited salary cap. They must have about 15 blokes earning between $500K and $800K - what does that leave for the rest?

He's got a contract for next year so, unless we are prepared to have him clog the list for another twelve months playing VFL, we need to give him the last two games to work out where his shortcomings are and then send him away to work on them relentlessly over the break. I don't think he finds the ball enough to be an AFL player, but we've got nothing to lose now that the season is done.