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I received two emails as well. I understand that clubs are finding life difficult, but I'm pretty unimpressed that the best they can offer members is a price freeze when we received zero value for money in 2020. The price rises in the past 3 - 4 years have been significant, and certainly haven't been matched by the performances on the field.
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Corr is the calibre of player you would be happy to get as a delisted free agent for a couple of years, but no way you would consider on a long term, big dollar contract.
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Far better to focus on a couple of Langdon-quality players at $500K each than paying up to $1M for Crouch.
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Gunston would be a great get and, if we could offset this by clearing out some of our excess mid-sized forwards at the same time, it would be a double bonus.
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The Herald Sun is reporting that Collingwood and Mihocek are miles apart on a contract renewal. As a latecomer to the AFL this contract clearly needs to be a big payday for him, but I can't imagine he is holding our for ridiculous money. We clearly lack a link between our midfield and forward line, and have done since Hogan left. Mihocek is a hard worker and could be a decent option at a reasonable price. Not sure what we need to give to Collingwood, although they owe us plenty for Kennedy, Dawes and Lumumba.
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There is no point trading Viney (or Brayshaw for that matter) for anything other than a ready made player that meets a pressing need right now. Why take a draft pick or developing player that may help us several years down the track, if indeed they actually make it. That said, I wish we had access to Geelong's unlimited salary cap. They must have about 15 blokes earning between $500K and $800K - what does that leave for the rest?
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He's got a contract for next year so, unless we are prepared to have him clog the list for another twelve months playing VFL, we need to give him the last two games to work out where his shortcomings are and then send him away to work on them relentlessly over the break. I don't think he finds the ball enough to be an AFL player, but we've got nothing to lose now that the season is done.
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I have no opinion on Serong, other than he is small for a modern midfielder. He does appear to be a genuine footballer though. The recruitment of Pickett on the other hand breaks the first rule of drafting - only midfielders and key position players should be taken with first round picks unless your club is absolutely in the premiership window and drafting for urgent needs. Aside from that, Pickett is an undersized, highly flawed, highly inconsistent player who has never influenced games enough even at lower levels, and I remain highly unimpressed with this piece of drafting. He does have some talent, but not enough to succeed within the MFC patented brand of destroying young players.
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I've said it before, but the best thing that the ATO could do for us is to cut list sizes to 35 or less. That would force us to be absolutely ruthless with our delistings at the end of this season. Retirements: Jones, Jetta, Kolodjashnij Delistings: Spargo, Bedford, Hannan, Jordon, Nietschke, Hunt, Chandler, Brown, C.Wagner, J.Wagner, Smith, Bradtke, Dunkley Potential Trades: Salem, Melksham, Fritsch Surviving due to contracts only: Vandenberg, Neal-Bullen, Baker One year deals: Hibberd, Bennell, O.McDonald, Hore Two year deals: Petty, Sparrow, Fritsch (if not traded). Viney presumably gets a longer deal if he wants to stay. Bring in at least six players from trades and the draft, even though some morons decided to trade out our first round pick for a small forward who gets about three kicks a game.
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https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2020-22under22-squad-aflpa-40man-squad-best-young-players-gold-coast-suns-young-stars-who-made-it/news-story/3b403fdafbbc42d5648ae71c38bb5f7c Hardly surprising given our woeful drafting and player management over the past four years, but Melbourne are one of only two teams without a player in the 40 man under 22 squad. That is a massive hole to fill in 3-4 years time when players in this age group will be forming the nucleus of premiership sides. Thanks for nothing, Taylor and Mahoney.
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Worst team we have seen all year, and there have been some shockers to this point. We're short a genuine key defender, given Freo has three tall forwards, a lock down small defender, one - two midfielders, and a key forward. Never mind though, we have Melksham, Fritsch, Neal-Bullen, Pickett, Bedford, Vandenberg and Hunt all horribly out of form and not capable of doing anything other than loitering in the forward line waiting for some easy kicks to come their way. Goodwin reminds me of Daniel Andrews, trying to give the impression that he has everything under control when really he lost the plot months ago.
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Season over, so need to get some games into Baker. I would be delisting Bedford, Chandler and Dunkley but, if there is any doubt, this is the week to play them. Hibberd presumably plays if fit, and surely T.McDonald is in our best 22. Melksham and Salem need a kick in the rear. There is no value to playing any of Hannan, Vandenberg, Hunt, Neal-Bullen, Wagner and Brown at this point of the season. Does Jetta get a farewell game?
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I didn't watch any of last night's game, but we've all seen it countless times before. We have 5 - 6 players who try their guts out every week (Gawn, Oliver, May, Langdon, Petracca,?), a group who wake up on game day and decide whether they will bother trying or not (Melksham, Salem, Fritsch, Weideman, Lever, etc), and a bunch who simply aren't AFL standard (Smith, Neal-Bullen, Spargo, Brown, etc). When we have the majority of the team working hard we look capable of playing good football and matching it with the better teams, but we have far too many players who pick and choose when to put in. For me this all comes back to our putrid list management and drafting. We give long term contracts on good money to fringe players (Kolodjashnij, Vandenberg) and keep proven failures around for years after their use by date. Hunt has been on the list for 7 years, Neal-Bullen for 6, Vandenberg for 6, J.Wagner for 5, Smith for 5. Even Jetta, who we love, has only played more than 9 games five times in his last 11 seasons. Why has Nietschke, a speculative mid range selection who can't get on the field, been promised another year? We should be turning over the list regularly and finding players who are capable of being consistent contributors at AFL level. To be out of the 2019 draft after the second round last year was inexcusable. That's to say nothing of the ridiculous trade to get Pickett that cost us a top 10 pick this year. Players like Salem and Melksham know there is no competition for their spots in the team so they are happy to cruise along, taking a nice pay cheque each week. If Goodwin had any balls he would have dropped Melksham in the first month of the season and set the standards. What's the bet that most of Vandenberg, Hunt, Hannen, Pickett, and Lockhart return this week as we shuffle the deckchairs again? Then we'll get to the end of the year and give new contracts to the likes of Bedford, Chandler and Dunkley who have done nothing to deserve them.
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Yep, I think this one will be the problem as well. Very few teams have been competitive off a four day break, let alone actually winning.
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Spargo is playing the role that Neal-Bullen played in 2018 - looks great getting getting on the end of a few cheap handpasses when the team wins by 10 goals, does sweet FA when the ball doesn't fall in his lap. We'll never be a decent side with players who can't win their own football consistently and can't apply a reasonable level of defensive effort. At the moment that list includes Spargo, Melksham, Hannan, PIckett and Fritsch.
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The AFL have been on a path to destroy the VFL for two decades and they have finally achieved it. Congratulations to Gil and his lackeys. They are well on the way to destroying the local women's comp as well. I assume the endgame here is no reserves competition at all, and this becomes a driver to reduce list sizes. Perhaps we end up with AFL clubs farming players out to local clubs and topping up with injury replacements when required. Great for the AFL finances, not so great for player development and the standard of the competition.
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I haven't seen a game for four weeks, but it seems as though the same old mediocre players are doing the same old mediocre things. Vandenberg works his backside off, but can't kick or handpass. Melksham has talent to burn, but is lazy, selfish and undisciplined. Hannan and Spargo only look capable of getting a touch when the side wins by ten goals. Tomlinson has the ideal build for AFL, but coasts along at about 40% of his capacity. Salem drops his bundle as soon as pressure is applied. Pickett is the ultimate "nearly" footballer. The midfield as a whole only plays when it is on their terms. I can't see us playing finals now, so we really have to get games into the likes of Rivers, Baker and Bedford. I don't think Bedford and Baker will make it, but at least we can make a decision at year end based on actual performances rather than guesswork. Better than going back to Hunt, Neal-Bullen (next week) and others who have fallen short on multiple occasions.
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Even before he was rested for the Adelaide game, he had developed some horrible traits in his game (reaching for the ball with one arm, not positioning himself at the feet of the key forwards, going to ground too easily, etc). Sadly he doesn't seem to have fixed these issues. He is getting games at the moment because we don't have any other options, not because he deserves them.
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That is only the majority view. Goodwin prefers to do his experimenting off a four day break against the top side.
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I'd still love to know the extent of the due diligence that the club undertook before offering Kade a contract, which presumably is worth around $1M over the three years. I find it hard to believe that he had concussion issues at GC, was miraculously cured when we came knocking at the end of 2018, and suddenly had concussion issues again a few months later.
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AFLW Off Season News / 2021 Preseason
poita replied to Dees_In_October's topic in AFLW Melbourne Demons
So Cordner and Newman are gone, basically for an early second round pick. https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/08/04/2020-aflw-trade-period-tracker-and-analysis/ Not sure what to make of that given that we paid more than that for Birch last year, although she is a fair bit younger than Cordner. Anything less than a top 5 pick for O'Dea would be a poor result. And we certainly need something decent back if Smith goes. -
Rubbish changes from a coach who has completely lost the plot. One bad game doesn't detract from the fact that we finally had a decent structure in the past few weeks. Now we've replaced a tall defender and a tall forward with more midfield / utility players, even though we already have Harmes, Brayshaw and Jones playing out of position. We have Gawn hobbling around on one leg, but no key position players on the bench. Bad luck if he breaks down in the first quarter. Presumably we pull Jackson out of the forward line and revert to the one tall forward structure that worked so poorly earlier in the season. We're building our forward line around a bloke who averages 0.25 goals and 1.5 marks a game. Tom McDonald was poor last week, but he was no worse than Jackson's 2 kicks, 0 marks and 0 tackles. Meanwhile coach's pet Melksham continues to get a game each week despite simply refusing to contribute anything other than receive cheap uncontested possessions inside forward 50. We should beat Adelaide regardless of who we put on the field, but this is the not structure that will beat any half decent side.
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Why the fork was Gawn still running around in the closing minutes of Thursday's game? With a short turnaround he should have been in his tracksuit by the 10 minute mark of the last quarter. More coaching masterstrokes from the master coach.
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AFLW Off Season News / 2021 Preseason
poita replied to Dees_In_October's topic in AFLW Melbourne Demons
No issues at all with the club wanting to bring in some young talent - the top draftees are getting better each year and we haven't gone to the draft enough in the past two seasons. That said, losing that amount of experience in one hit has to be a massive concern. Losing any more than two of O'Dea, Smith, Cordner and Newman is a problem in an even competition unless there is a heap of compensation coming back the other way. I wonder to what degree Casey and / or the coach are an issue here. I can understand players not wanting to travel to Cranbourne for little remuneration after working a full week, and Stinear has hardly maximised the talent at his disposal in the past four years. -
Gawn can't kick, so it is pointless him being in the forward line. More importantly it takes him away from playing a kick behind play. lso, Jackson is useless in the ruck, unless he is going to stay down and rove to the opposition ruckman. Not his fault, he just isn't tall enough to be a modern day ruckman.