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Pretty harsh to say he didn't care. He cared enough to sign a 4 year deal when we were pretty bad. Then came the neeld years and it was obvious the club was going nowhere. It's easy to say only supporters care when I can say plenty of supporters dropped off during those hard years. We have supporters who are saying they won't renew next year with Goodwin in charge. When you don't have to be at the game getting smashed by 100 points each week and face the public...

Hi @Lord Nev, given you've been right about a few things just thought I'd ask this, it seems like you're in the know. Has there been a big change in the amount of info that's being leaked since PJ was at the top? I remember before PJ we seemed to be a leaky ship but once he was brought in the information seemed to have dried up. Now that he has gone it seems like there's more info out there. Is this something you have noticed as well? Or am I totally wrong?

Don't have to trade him but is there much point keeping a player on an inflated salary that will just be sitting in the 2s unless Gawn gets injured? I'd rather have a late second rounder/third round than have someone eat cap space and be worth nothing in 2 years.

Thought this article was interesting about rucking. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-17/afl-analysis-how-ruck-strategy-has-evolved/12668180?section=sport I think it goes a little in explaining why we went out to get Preuss and later the drafting of Luke Jackson. Seems like we tried to switch to a dual ruck plan similar to West Coast where we drop Gawn behind the ball and have another ruck in Preuss up in the forward half of the ground. I think problem was we overestimated Preuss' forward ability and ended up with a ruckman who just wasn't good enough to fill the role we wanted. Makes the Preuss recruitment I guess a little less baffling. It also to me explains why we went after Luke Jackson in the draft.

Would be wary of a knee jerk reaction. Two weeks ago we'd probably be saying that we have major problems in every line. Still think we have problems with the forward line and I think quick teams will still be able to score easily on the counter.

Reckon our entries into 50 still aren't great but the F50 pressure has really improved.

Perspective on demonland? Am I on the right forum?

We already have recruited someone with long term concussion issues in Kolodjashnij. I'd argue that the McCartin's concussion issues are worse because they have been more regular and him having more time off with no improvement. I think that McCartin also has some genetic predisposition to concussion as it seems his brother also has concussion issues. I wouldn't extend Kolodjashnij's contract and I wouldn't recruit McCartin because there's close to 0 chance it'll get better.

If we're relying on beating teams at the right place and time I'd say our season was already [censored].

Does this even matter? Given there are no crowds you could pretty much consider the Essendon game a home game. This would never happen but I would go far as to say that this season I would be happy to for interstate teams to have more home games than melbourne based teams. This would even out the amount of travel interstate sides have to do.

So you're saying he should say no to a club podcast? Or go on a club podcast and not give an answer about when asked what training is like? Jesus some people are hard to please.

I guess I should get life insurance as well because that's only 1 cappuccino a week and join the gym because that's 2 cappuccinos a week. So what if it's a little spend to you? Not everyone has the same priorities. Everyone on here is a melbourne support, member or not and should he appreciated because my god when I look at every other club we need every little bit of support we can get.

Lol you've probably showed more intensity in your posts than any of the players. I didn't enjoy any of the free flowing stuff. Once a player got free it was an easy goal.

Gee some supporters are a bit precious. How about worrying about a starting a new 'Melbourne' in consistently making finals instead getting offended by the notion we had a disappointing year last year?

Which ones are incorrect? The only one which you could argue is speculation would be the tanking and that would probably be because the afl didn't charge us on it. If you take your rose coloured glasses off it's pretty clear we tanked. I don't think anyone has straight up said the club have not invited Bennell because the truth is none of us know. I think this thread has spiralled into two sides of the fence.

Your blind faith in the club is just as bad as always assuming the worst. I just thought it was strange that Bennell was not part of the group. There could be a valid reason or the club might not have invited him. To assume the powers to be are always right leads to situations like the essendon drug saga. This is a club that tanked, had associations with Dank, didn't review a massive finals loss that led to a miserable season, sent out finals guide before we had even made the finals and some examples of stuff ups. I don't believe in unwaivering belief and I think it's healthy to ask questions instead of assuming the best.

Oversight is a probably the wrong word. I would hope he was invited if he could be. Your speculating as much as I am expect you are claiming it as fact. Wasn't there someone on one of our camps in nt on our permission to train list who got picked up by Fremantle as a rookie and had to awkwardly say goodbye?

Hopefully it was an oversight but I would be disappointed to learn if Bennell wasn't invited to go

GWS can't trade their second round as they've traded their first round. They also need some form of points for the pick matching. The rest of your post is about as likely to happen as gc trading picks 1+2 for 3

Never going to happen. They still need points to match the bid. 97 is not going to give them any

Pretty poor deal for gws considering they traded 12, 18 And next years first round for 4

Wait didn't we spend a whole year complaining that our boys weren't fit enough because they were rehabbing till christmas

If you listen to the interviews he gave in the final week and on the inside melbourne podcast he pretty much hinted as such. He was non committal saying he had a contract with fox and needed a break from the club side of footy. Something must've changed between then and now.

Yep let's do some draft tampering after our history of tanking... FMD

Wait can't Geelong still select him in the drafts before the SSP comes into play?