Undeeterred

He won't leave. We could (/will) give him, deadset, 600-700k and not even put a dint in our salary cap. He won't get that anywhere else...

Completely right, in my book. People underestimate how bad things had got. If you go further down that possession list from yesterday, you'll see Nate Jones, Howe and Sylvia, but basically the rest of the top 10 have less than 20 games (Evans eg). Of course we are behind GC - we are actually more inexperienced than them, despite that being Neeld's choice.

The very definition of kneejerk.

He barely even hit him. 2 weeks for mine. And I don't care what people say, he's in our best 3 this year.

Also, it really killed Tapscott's attack on the ball. He was best on ground for us until that point and faded badly. A real shame, he was smashing it (pardon the pun).

That was an abysmal decision. And a real shame to discourage that sort of play, because we are absolutely crying out for it!!

Nathan Jones, as a Futurama head in a jar.

Hate to break it to you, but if you're going to call someone retarded, it's best to use the word 'retarded' not a made up word that makes you sound more stupid than him. Best just not to call people retarded, perhaps.

Fair bit of revisionism going on here...

WJ - you are probably the best, most credible poster on this site, but today's game was terrible, and absolutely riddled with errors. Yes, the intensity was high, but the errors were absolutely appalling and some of the play was Melbourne-esque and we'd have been right at home today. Nevertheless, you're right. We are miles off a game like today's.

When we learn how to play 4 quarters, we really won't be as bad as we look at times...

Clark icing the bad foot, and done for the day. Uh oh

We're done. This game and for at least the next 3-4 years.

Why does everybody equate basketball with a lack of intensity? If you all are going to use 'basketball' as shorthand for being soft, get a grip. Good basketballers play tougher than Jack Watts does, it has nothing to do with the sport itself.

Mods, ban me or whatever, but not before I call this poster a complete and utter [censored].

All I'm saying is that there is no point winning a few easy games against teams away from home, when you have absolutely zero chance of beating anybody who puts the remotest bit of pressure on you. In the longer term, we are far better working out how to play decent defensive football, rather than beating teams in soft games and getting murdered against teams like Hawthorn. When a decent team with firepower puts pressure on us, we have absolutely nothing to fire back with. I'm thinking in particular of a couple of Haw games where we were down by 10-15 goals at half time, and for large patches couldn't get the ball beyond the back flank. I honestly reckon that sucked worse than what is going on now. I don't want that to be the trade off for winning a few games a year against interstate teams not at their best.

You clearly never saw us repeatedly belted by Hawthorn and Collingwood, and I mean belted. It was all one way traffic against teams like Adelaide and Freo at the G. As soon as it got a bit hard we were absolutely flogged. As much as I detest Mitch Robinson, he got it exactly right with his bruise free footy comment.

What a very compassionate response! Well done, champ.

So two blokes out on the [censored] have a bit of a shove. Yeah, that would be the first time mates have ever done that before. Gosh, people, relax! Yes, we are playing crap football but, surprisingly, it's not because they are having a drink after the game.

Mate, you are absolutely kidding yourself.

Yes, yes it is. Take a chill pill.

I think that reaction was due to the constant barrage he has copped from them. He's allowed to be sick of those parasites without it having any bearing on his interactions with his players.

There's no need to be so aggressive about everything, Stuie. Good to see you've done some digging, and my point stands. They took very crap teams, and made them slightly less crap. Now, obviously the Blues made the 8 that year, so I take your point partly, but essentially it takes time. Sacking people every few minutes doesn't achieve anything except keep the merry go round going. The other point you've clearly supported for me is that none of them were sacked after 3 games.

Irrelevant. The point is they each had rabid fans and journalists after them and basically learned, developed a list and made their teams a hell of a lot better.

Frawley will walk the second he is free to...