Undeeterred

Better than having a list of players who can't get a game at ours...

On the right track, but completely misunderstanding the motivation. It's the speed of the game that's important, not the ads. Same reason you can chuck it out of a pack now without being penalised. I think you are wrong. This will have similar impact to the centre circle rule, and look what that did to our last killer ruckman. You'll see heaps more stoppages where the rucks arent really in position, and blokes like Howe and Sylvia going up.

Doesn't say much, does it...

Are we seriously counting rd 1 as in the bag, before the trade period is even done? When will you people learn!!

Can you two take the nostalgic whining somewhere else?

Let's cross that bridge when we get to it, shall we??

Wow. Probably one of the more uninformed posts I've read on here, and that's saying something.

This is all about momentum. So we get a couple of good picks who make an impact, and a couple of more fringe FAs. We win 7 or 8 next year. It becomes more palateable to come to MFC, and we get one or two higher impact FAs next year, along with another early first rounder. We win 9 or 10 the next year. We are just building - it simply isn't going to happen overnight and we will need that slow build before a Cloke or a Goddard is really willing to come here.

I can't understand why there isn't more of this ^^^^

Sounds like someone is getting a new contract...

Maybe you're thinking of Beau Wilkes, who has kicked something like 12 goals in his entire career, and 7 or 8 of them were against us.

This is spot on. Sadly, because he has been up there as my favourite player for years now, and has put up with enormous amounts of crap football in the latter part of his career while never dropping his head. But you are right on - the need for him has probably passed.

That 3 years for Jamar might turn out to be one of our bigger fails in this next rebuild.

Don't panic folks. In 10 years, we'll be saying 'Thank God Jordie McMahon could kick straight, and we got that champion along with that nobody who went off to that club that used to play at that empty stadium in Sydney.'

Source? Just plain old brainpower, my friend.

I can't believe I'm doing this, but, actually, they aren't. Rumor, like color and humor and all of those spellings are American. They aren't correct in Australian English. If you put them in a job application, it might get turfed in the bin. Just putting it out there.

I hear the clattering hooves of a hobby horse.

Good work tiger. Subtle as a sledgehammer.

This thread title is very misleading. We don't 'lose' 13, it just becomes '14'. Not exactly Armageddon...

We need Dawes only so Collingwood don't have him. Imagine how rooted we would be on QB with Rivers gone, Frawley on Cloke, TMac on Lynch and, what, Watts on Dawes? Tongue only slightly in cheek. Edit: Sorry, forgot Dunn. He can take Dawes I guess. Scary.

Bingo. Don't get what all the hand-wringing is about on here. Who would we prefer? Martin? Seriously? His brain takes 5 seconds to tell his foot to kick it. Give me Dawes any day of the week.

Not in a million years. Neeld would shred him into little pieces.

Completely factually inaccurate, and shows you weren't actually watching.

As if, they've had months to work that one out. They know exactly what they are going to do, although good on him for muddying the waters.

It is an interesting question though - what's 'silly money'? I would thought paying overs for a big name for a couple of years is not going to make a dent in our long term plans. Even if you just look at departures, and ignore the fact that we already only pay (I think) the minimum 92.5% of the TPP, we must have almost a million bucks just to break even. I wouldn't have thought paying a Wellingham or Lynch that for a couple of years is a big deal, even if it is overs. When our junior players come on, hopefully they will be worth a fortune. But they aren't now, and filling that gap with a couple of players on more money than they are worth wouldn't be the end of the world, I reckon. Equally, we could bring in nobody, front load the bejesus out of everybody's contracts, and have even more money to play with down the track... I should say, I'm not advocating paying one player like Wellingham or Lynch $1mil a season! Ooops. More just saying that, with that additional cap space freed up by Green, Moloney and, sadly, probably Rivers, we can afford 2 or 3 players to make up that shortfall.