Undeeterred

We also could have had the blokes who were there kick straight. For all the talk about a lack of a forward line, we only needed a few of those easy ones to be converted. No excuses, forward line targets or not.

So should we give Max King a run up there. Jamar maybe? Seriously, what's your alternative?

Which bit? If you mean Frawley, no way. The guy asks for direction and success then totally bails on contributing to it.

It isn't how, it's how many. We need to find ways to win games like that against crap opposition. The chances will be few and far between.

Revisionism, much?

I can think of a few things.

We're really not a team who can afford to kick 6.15.

Cue meltdown.

Probably the only guy left who's played there before.

We're clearly getting enough of it, we just have absolutely nothing down there.

Uh oh.

And I think Bernie boy might feel like he has a point to prove...

Watts, 6 touches in 10 minutes. Looking good

Jones and Vince getting a lot of it early, good signs

Get on board, Toump haters!

Aaaaand away we go!

Me too, including the coach.

You can always find examples against. That doesn't necessarily tip the balance. In my view it is a pretty big risk to load up on a key forward with past knee history, which we'd need to do to get someone like Walker. Yes, some recover, but a lot don't and I'd far rather chase someone without that added risk factor, who would cost basically the same wage. I accept that it isn't as if we're advocating chasing Menzel, who has now had three, but still.

Because he is the best full back in the country.

Sure, but who listens to a word they say anyway?

It would sure shock the crap out of me.

Fantastic. Under age captain or not, that shows maturity well beyond his years. If he can handle that and respond as a debutant, then good on him.

Please not another key position player with knee history. I can handle it if they're basically clean before they arrive and something goes wrong, but will we never learn our lesson?

Think I'm tough enough to see what people actually say about me without being [censored], if that's what you mean.

Stuff him. I hope he [censored] all over himself.