Undeeterred

That would be completely humiliating for him, sorry.

I got howled down for pointing out he was an injury risk months ago...

Deadset the best set shot kick for goal we've had in my lifetime... https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aTTIm5ys78M

You're kidding yourselves. We are going to get bent over and shagged stupid.

Howe and Vince were dreadful today (though are AFL standard normally). Dunn is close to our best and most reliable at the moment. He's not 'depth'.

Way to build the culture and purge the memory of rooting Jnrmac, Bruce and Green before their time. Idiotic.

I don't care about Roos and Jackson committing for more than the next two years - I'd be more worried about getting the players to commit, to be honest.

His duty is to serve his contract, which is two years. He has no duty beyond that whatsoever.

What exactly would you suggest Bartlett, Jackson or Roos do that isn't already being done? Edit: typo

He looks completely spent... Talked a lot about us not being close enough to tackle, but also interestingly talked about having to be on the boundary line to 'keep the enthusiasm up'. This says more to be than anything else - our players are completely shot.

Again, what can you say?

Wow.

Prescient!

If it is just being underdone, as opposed to being in danger of reinjury, I'd stick him back in!

God knows why, but I had a bit of time on my hands and rewatched this game today. We absolutely dominated that first quarter, and apart from injuries obviously, why on earth have the wheels fallen off so much? In my book, they showed the intent and urgency required in that quarter, then it just disappeared for the next three quarters and the following week. If we have McDonald, Dunn, Watts etc taking on the game like they did early in Round 1, we'll be fine... Even Frawley absolutely smashed some guy in a tackle about 20 seconds in. Surely they haven't given up already??

Yep, alright alright. I wasn't making excuses anyway, just observations.

True, but it just seems like we cop this stuff all the time. I mean, Essendon has had the drugs stuff, for example, but its once, for a year. We seem to have major stuff every five minutes.

I think it is actually enormously positive development that Clark and the club are meeting. It is great that Clark is ready to resolve this one way or the other, because we need to get rid of this distraction. It is simply amazing how many major distractions the club has had in recent years - this, the tanking saga, the Scully saga, the Neeld media circus, Presidents dying, ex-coaches dying... We all go on about how the players should just play, but they are human and they simply must lose focus by virtue of all this stuff. Who would have thought that the late Daniher years were actually probably the most stable we'd have in a decade. When will the club be able to focus on playing good, consistent football with good, consistent players? As soon as they find a way to get a run without these types of distractions, things have a chance of getting better.

It is depressing that basically every thread now on Demonland sounds the same.

Wow. I can't even find fault with any of this.

The tide will turn in 426.

I think there's not nearly enough criticism of Roos' seeming inability to come up with any viable Plan B, which in reality is what he is here for.

Without wanting to get too enmeshed in a fight between you two, is it fair to say that Moloney was a first time offender? I'm not saying he wasn't, just have heard that it wasn't exactly the first time he'd got himself in situations like that... I could very well be wrong so open to being corrected!

MFC - Ho Lee Sh!t.

Just want to point out for the record the idiocy of equating basketball with lack of intensity. Come up with a decent analogy if you want to hang it on Watts for jogging around without any direction. Some of you heroes couldn't hold a candle to most of the basketballers I know.