Undeeterred

Gee, that video brings back some childhood memories! Really, when you see that team, which included Jimmy, Garry Lyon, Schwarta, Stinger, the Lovetts, Todd Viney, the Febeys. They were certainly the glory days of supporting Melbourne for me. Is it any wonder, when you watch how they played, why guys like Jimmy, Garry and The Ox get so facking frustrated at the shambles that we became? God, in the last 10 years, it is only a couple of those Bailey wins that even come close to the thrill of watching clips like that.

Ambiguous? He's impacting really well already, and not many people would have pulled him out of the pool at no 4. Not sure why that's so hard to work out from my post Song!

Oliver was an inspired pick

Jack Watts turns it over twice - a real shame because he is presenting brilliantly and taking lots of strong marks.

All knees in tact. Good to see we are really pushing forward hard too when we get it. It just comes back quickly the other way when it goes pear shaped.

Pretty scrappy so far, and Max Gawn has been beaten a couple of times already...

Nope. Not one little bit.

Didn't dodge a bullet. But for that foot injury, who knows. If he stayed healthy, he would be an absolute monster for us and did some incredible things. I don't care where he plays or even whether he does, but we definitely lost out here.

North. I'd just love to smash them in a GF

North and St. Kilda We just have to spank them at some point soon.

Sorry, but to suggest that Jamar is anything but finished is (1) revisionist and (2) delusional.

So odd, it is just absolutely none of anybody else's business. Why do people have such a sense of ownership about this kind of thing?

Nope, me too.

Nobody is forcing you to fork over anything mate.

I'd spew if we gave up anything more than a pick for Melksham, who clearly wants to come here. Dawes might be a touch on the spud side, I do think he is nevertheless underrated on here,

The club stuck by him because it was in the club's best interests to do so. Honestly, if you think the club is just a benevolent society for blokes with multiple knee injuries that they keep paying because they feel sorry for them, you are living in la-la-land.

You're right, very good point. Maybe one more... We might be fine, it just feels like the younger players are getting a bit cooked and it will be really interesting to see whether we've improved or fallen off a bit when we get the return bout against St. Kilda next week. I guess my point was more that not taking advantage of those opportunities a few weeks ago might mean we end up really disappointed in the final wash up of this season.

I bet Roos is absolutely spewing we aren't sitting 12th on 7 wins, especially as we tire coming into the end of the season. I reckon the young kids are knackered and if we don't get over the Saints, we'll struggle to get another win locked away this year.

We knocked off Adelaide too last year and everybody creamed themselves, despite it meaning practically nothing in the long run.

The two of you both need to realise that simply quoting the same bloody stuff at each other ad nauseum doesn't actually convince anyone of anything. Just agree to disagree and get over it

16-1 hitouts

Gosh you make me laugh sometimes!

Of course you're allowed to say that, but you'll just get shouted down by the sensible people who actually have watched his progress this year and noted how much more value he is providing. It isn't that hard to see, and there is absolutely no way he is being delisted this year (and I don't even know if he is out of contract).

Imagine going to a pub with this guy. What a drainer!

And St Kilda struggled to put us away, whereas Collingwood's class held us out all day. They just too many weapons who bob up when the others are down.