Undeeterred

Amazing how much difference it makes when you bring blokes in because they're in form, not because you are dropping people and someone has to come up.

Give yourself 5 mins not to worry about it and just go mental, mate.

Vandenberg - 13 tackles. Just sayin'.

Sitting in a very quiet office in London trying desperately not to scream at the AFL Live App. Bring it home boys.

Good call I think, in the circumstances.

YAY! ANOTHER JACK WATTS THREAD. No, really, let's talk about him some more.

I agree - as per discussion with WYL above I really think they made the only choice open to them in the circumstances. I certainly wouldn't have gone with Dunn or Jamar and really Brad Green was the only player on that list even remotely with the capacity to captain other than the two who got it, so they were pretty stuffed whichever way they went really. My view is at least they had a go at putting the future in charge, not the past.

Than Dunn and Jamar? Absolutely.

Sorry, but this is revisionist rubbish. Dunn was nowhere near it and Jamar has the leadership qualities of Humphrey B. Bear.

Brad Green springs to mind.

He's an employee of a football club who has every right to negotiate a salary in a way that benefits him the most. God the outrage about this is ludicrous.

No, Ebola is a tragedy. This would be losing an averageish flanker who hasn't really been able to pin down which end of the ground he should flank on.

That wouldn't be front of my mind if I had 8 years to make a lifetime's worth of money.

This. Also, I agree with someone the other day who said Dunstall has a soft spot for us - he clearly does. He was barracking for us last year against Essendon in those last 30 seconds for sure...

Gee, on paper we really should be able to push that Tigers team pretty hard.

Just saving you from having to hit refresh repeatedly until he comes back

He sure is.

If we don't win this, I genuinely can't see where we will get another win until after QB... Also just sayin'.

Maybe. But he's also one of the players in the league I'd back to kick a winning goal from the boundary line (like, eg, the sealer against GC in Round 1)

Not sure if you're being serious, but he kicked a bag for Casey two years ago with precisely the same approach.

Just lazy and sexist, mate. Do better.

I repeatedly have to correct the basketballer = sook shorthand that people here seem to get off on as well...

Yes, but I think what has been demonstrated is that, actually, it doesn't need to be worked on.

I think we all need to stop demanding that Watts be something he's not, and start celebrating the fact that he is smart enough to ride out a contest he's not going to win, then has the presence of mind to whip it off a guy running past into an open goal.

This will be the difference between them limping into the 8 with 11 or so wins and finishing 12 with 7-9, I reckon.