Queanbeyan Demon

Regarding Bob Murphy . . . hope he never coaches our midfield. A fart in the quarter time huddle is as risky as a Jack Viney handball in the backline. It could lead to a messy turnover.

Move on from what? I still haven't gotten over Jimmy running through the mark. And don't even start me on round 22, 1976.

Um . . . Parker is still in the top 300 players in the comp. You mean there's not a role in a side that finished well out of finals contention for that sort of a player who can play multiple roles? Judging Darling on his last two years at Wet Toast is ridiculous. Hudson would be battling to kick a goal with that mob. As a decoy for JVR, Disco, Jeffo Airoplane - he would have been fabulous.

I haven't the time right now to read the whole thread - but YTF we didn't chase Darling and Parker is totally beyond me. So many pluses and so few downsides to both of them.

Are we starting a grid iron team?

Not sure anyone is asking them to come at it.

That's called draft tampering and is accompanied by heavy sanctions if found guilty.

All good points @Macca. I must admit, I'm wondering why we didn't make a play for Jack Darling. Depending on price and cost, seems to me he could have taken some pressure off JVR and possibly even Jefferson Airplane if/when he's ready. (Cue moans and groans from the peanut gallery.)

Yes, i can imagine Petracca, Viney, Oliver, Rivers, Sparrow, Kozzie, Langdon, Windsor, Tholstrup and two picks inside the top 10 getting it in the centre and kicking straight down the throat of ???????? .....................

200k goes no where near keeping eyes on someone full-time. Start at $1,000,000 and work up from there.

At 'Land . . . We’re just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year.

Who's gettable at noon? Bont?

Imagine how strong the brand would have been had we not tripped on our own boot laces for the last 60 years.

Sheez . . . we're going to have a fair bit of salary cap space available with Nibbler, Kosi, Clayton, Trac and JV gone. We might be thinking of bringing in Nathan Ablett.

I'm really over people pointing fingers at the usual suspects: the media (those good folks just doing their job), the umpires (come on, we all know they’re perfect), the AFL (because they’re totally innocent), the Filth (Collingwood, obviously), the Club, ex-club legends, the *cul-cha*, Pork-barrel Park, the Government (they're always blamed for everything), injuries, the fitness team (surely they’re saints), the admin chaos . . . oh, and did I mention the umpires (again)? Here's where we *really* need to be focusing our attention for where the real vilians are hiding - in plain view. 1. Judas Iscariot – The original backstabber, pre-Facebook drama. 2. The person in the grassy knoll – Still dodging accusations like a pro. 3. Lindy Chamberlain – Blamed for a dingo’s diet plan. 4. Richard Nixon – The guy who made tape recordings go out of style. 5. Macbeth – Just couldn’t resist the whole “stab the king” trend. 6. Marie Antoinette – Accused of not sharing her cake recipe. 7. Bernie Madoff – A financial wizard, but not in a Harry Potter way. 8. King Henry VIII – Bad at marriages, good at decapitations. 9. George Pell – Accused of lots, cleared of some, still dodgy headlines. 10. Voldemort – Definitely allergic to love, and noses.

It would be handy if the CEO knew the premiership full forward's number I would have thought.

Oh Kate. Goodness gracious me.

What an awful speech from the pres. Weazel words.

Yeah - that Max Gawn and Viney and May and TMac and Milkshake are all hopeless.

Actually, Ramsey Bogdanovich, Glen Middlemiss or even Redodgeavic from Geelong West would be handy for us right now.

As the root cause of many of Melbourne's problems - you can take this to the bank. Clayton Oliver’s combination of athletic excellence and moments of emotional immaturity can be viewed through the lens of a more complex Jungian archetype. Specifically, Oliver embodies elements of the Puer Aeternus, or the "eternal boy." This archetype is characterized by an individual who, despite physical or intellectual maturity, may struggle with emotional growth. It often manifests in those who are full of energy, creativity, and drive but lack the emotional grounding that comes with true maturity. In Oliver’s case, while he excels on the field in a disciplined, Warrior-like manner, his moments of emotional immaturity suggest an inner conflict between his professional responsibilities and his emotional development. The Puer Aeternus represents vitality, enthusiasm, and boundless energy—traits that align perfectly with Oliver’s on-field performance. His resilience, creativity, and unwavering commitment to his team showcase his remarkable ability to thrive in high-pressure environments, embodying attributes often celebrated in athletes who combine physical prowess with mental tenacity. However, this archetype also carries a shadow side—marked by impulsivity, emotional immaturity, and a struggle with long-term responsibility. Despite his incredible skill and leadership potential, Oliver’s emotional responses at times reflect the behavior of someone who hasn’t fully integrated mature emotional intelligence. In high-pressure or frustrating moments, his reactions can appear childlike, characterized by irritability or an inability to control his emotions, traits that one might not expect from someone in his position. The Puer Aeternus often resists grounding in the realities of life, avoiding the maturation process necessary for developing emotional stability. For Oliver, this can be seen in his moments of frustration when things don’t go his way on the field or in interactions with teammates, coaches, or opponents. This archetypal resistance to growth into the Senex (the wise elder) phase, where wisdom and restraint guide decisions, highlights his inner tension. This dynamic is not uncommon in highly talented individuals. In many cases, those who excel in one area—such as Oliver’s dominance in football—can sometimes neglect other aspects of personal growth, like emotional maturity. The Puer Aeternus lives in the moment, often struggling with delayed gratification, which can be observed in Oliver’s occasional reactivity, both in his gameplay and emotional interactions. It’s important to note that the Puer Aeternus is not inherently negative. Many great leaders and innovators exhibit this archetype, as it fosters creativity, energy, and a fearless approach to challenges. However, for Clayton Oliver to reach his full potential, reconciling this Puer Aeternus energy with the Warrior archetype—or even transitioning into the King archetype, which embodies balance, authority, and maturity—will be crucial. This shift would allow him to not only dominate on the field but also become a more emotionally grounded and effective leader. If Oliver can integrate the emotional maturity required to temper his Puer Aeternus tendencies while maintaining the drive and fearlessness that defines his Warrior spirit, he has the potential to evolve into a complete player and leader. This growth would enable him to handle the pressures of leadership, not just in football but in his broader life, making him a more resilient, composed, and impactful individual both on and off the field.

Thoughtful and rational post. Thank you.

It's the CEO's job in any organisation to stick their nose in wherever there is risk. I cannot think of a bigger risk than Clarry, be that today, last week, or last year.

How can you know that?