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Not to mention the 10goal loss we may have tomorrow will see the AFL removing us from the Anzac eve fixture, which was another the sky is falling gem

B. Hore TMac Hibberd HB. Hunt Frost Salem C. Stretch Viney Fritsch HF. Melk Weid Trac F. Garlett T.Smith Lockhart R. Gawn, Brayshaw, Oliver I/C. Jones, ANB, JWagner, Harmes We need as many runners as possible across all lines against the Tigers. They will do the same as the Saints try and run us off our feet. Can't play the long bombs against them, but also need to get it in quick in a similar vain to how Port played on Good Friday against the Eagles Two way running and being on the back shoulder of your direct opponent are non negotiables

Carlton are chasing Coniglio hard and have been for a while Zak Jones moving up the pecking order at Sydney this year may push his price up if he shines. His hard run and leg speed are what we need through the middle. Not sold on his decision making and disposal

Whoever we target it's time to start targeting them before the price shoots up. May may be great for us but like Lever came at a heavy cost if they work out great. I like the deals Carlton have done to get Plowman and Marchbank in. I like both players. Having said that both Hibberd and Melksham were good deals which I think the club won

Good points RN and if we win the clearances and deliver the ball inside 50 well enough for Pruess to smash packs or to negate his direct opponent peeling off on Weid/Tmac oppositions will have to worry more about him

My only reservations RN on him are his opponent running off him on the bigger ground. There were times tonight when his lack of mobility was very noticeable. But he was important tonight.

6. Gawn 5. Oliver 4.Jones 3. Trac 2. Salem 1.Hunt Same good momentum breaers in the game winning contests and taking intercept marks from Viney, Hore and Fritter

Yes Rjay that's correct I meant we are taking time to put the pieces together weve got our bulls now the polish

Yes to both doing a proper rebuild this time.

Hindsight is wonderful but you need to look back a lot further than you are. Hawks dynasty was built on the 2001 and 04 drafts and topped up with Burgoyne Lake Hale and Mcevoy. Cats was the 99 and 2001 drafts. We are still paying for the poor drafting in the first 12 years of the noughties which killed our depth. Don't underestimate the importance of having a large amount of 8 to 10 + year AFL hardened players on your list Eagles - Kennedy Darling Shuey Hurn Yeo Hutchings Vardy Masten Schofield Reddan Shepherd Gaff Cripps and Jetta. Some of those players are very ordinary but have the bodies and experience to come in and fill a role allowing the youngster to flourish. It's why you see sides like Eagles Cats Hawks Swans and Pies bounce back so quickly after 2 to 3 years out of contention. The continous development of their lists and evolution of player depth every year. We are about 5 years into building what takes 8 to 10 to build into a long term powerhouse. That is why the injury list and drop off in form of experience is exposing our depth

Round 3 2006 we lost to the Crows on the Gold Coast due to the G being used for the Commonwealth Games. From memory we went down in a close one and showed enough to have turned the corner. We lost Round 1 to Carlton the day before my wife went into labor with our first child. I can tell you now we were better in Rd 3 2006 against the eventual minor premiers than we were Friday night

A modern problem with recruiters, both are players. Constable is a classic case of a mid who knows how to find the pill, but the knock on him was his lack of pace. They focused on what he couldn't do rather on his ball winning assets. I rate Spargo who IMO has a good footy brain. He would have looked decent round 1 and 2 in that Cats forward line

Sorry DD haven't got much info on Kobe and with increased parent sports duties dont get to see as many junior games as I used to or would like to. I speak with some from junior development in the Peel region. They say he shows flashes of great talent but not consistently, I think Kobe is only 16 going on 17. He's not talked about among the up and comers in that age bracket and not part of Peel Thunder Colts squad. I've seen big developments in kids in the 17 to 18 age brackets so you never know but I think at this stage it's a long shot.

It's time to change things up, last week wasn't good, but it was better overall than Rd 1 despite the bigger Margin Players who make things happen need to play and we need to focus on workrate and lower delivery inside forward 50 and applying pressure at the fall of the ball. The Bombers like us are down on confidence and we need to apply pressure from centre clearances to their defensive 50 and not allow them to run and carry. Jetta Omac Hibberd Jones Frost Salem KK Viney Harmes Trac Weid Fritsch Garlett TMac Melk Gawn, Oliver, Brayshaw I/C Keilty/Smith, Hunt, Stretch Wagner only one of Keilty or Smith plays and Sparrow a bit stiff but omitting him for C. Wagner. Although I'm not sure the FD will make 4 changes Out. Sparrow, ANB, Lockhart, May In. Wagner, Garlett, Keilty/Smith, Stretch

Agree agree & agree Ball moves quicker than any player ive seen and it comes back even quicker when your players are committed and poor disposal turns it over. We turned it around last season when we started hitting targets moving forward instead of Bombing aimlessly Whilst Levers out Lewis is still needed to marshal the backline and coach on field.

6.Salem 5.Melk 4.Harmes 3. Fritsch 2.Wagner 1. Sparrow

Well said and as much as I dislike them the Eagles midfield of the mid noughties was something special to watch and probably third in line Cox(better than Primus and Keating and far more mobile) Cousins, Judd, Kerr, Embley, Banfield Braun and Fletcher

Read his comments re Rances injury. Tells you a lot Should be banned for that alone

There both Marquee stand alone big occasion games and they get 85k+ crowds

You do recall Carlton were 6 goals up last year in the second quarter and Richmond only ran over them in the 4th And whilst we love our club many were saying similar about us getting QB for many years

We've got decent depth now, time to stop worrying about who we haven't got just worry about who you have got. Play your role and your a chance

I'm thinking the other way Red, he will play

That's my only issue with the suspension. IMo I thought when it happened he was in trouble and probably deserved a week for stupidity, but My years of watching footy tell me something similar or even slightly worse later in the year gets reviewed over and over to find how a fine is justified.

You could argue the ball was in dispute in this instance and a contest, not handballed off and out of the contest

First impression seeing it on Saturday was it was undisciplined and something they would look at to set a standard as they always do early in the season. Stupid act and I hope Goody has torn strips off him in private. As was the case with Lewis and Hogan in 2017, theres tough acts and theres going over the top costing your side That's what this was