Moonshadow

The technical term is Fitzroyalty

Daniel was not unknown before his draft. He got plenty of mentions. His skills and courage were known. It's just that many clubs considered his height prohibitive and put a line through his name on draft night

Except Boyd was BOG in a winning GF and Vickery had done SFA forever

Dare I say a murder of crows, Red.

One penny comment ^

On one condition: the plug is pulled out.

I've made additions to Nasher's sizable bank balance in the past disguised as 'donations'. Happy to do so again regardless of result Bub. But I certainly would like to see us win and Picket row a bathtub full of spaghetti across the Yarra.

Unchecked rage = impulsive lunacy?

And yet that ridiculous letter to goody thread has hit a bazillion pages. The injustice of it all!

And if we win picket??? C'mon, what are you going to give up? Maybe a Lou Richards-style bath tub row or spaghetti over head?

Yes I understand that. My post should have used Demonland's new sarcasm font. My fail. I was trying to indicate that comparing Trenners foot injury and Gus' concussions isn't apples with apples. They are not "the same path", the treatment and outcomes cannot be compared without using the broadest of brushes.

Did Trenners have multiple concussions as well?

JKH is much quicker than JT. His skills atm are poorer and decision making not great. I felt sorry for Trenners when he played last year and couldn't keep up with the game. Only a few mids like Sam Mitchell can get away without foot speed because his skills and decision making are so quick and sublime. I don't see that with Trenners, as much as I'd like it to be.

I'd stick with the pilates

Unfortunately cannot see a future for him at the Dees. However I would be thrilled to be wrong.

Yes, I believe they have nudity policy Ethan

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Forgotten how good that was. Bloody brilliant. Now if Bernie applied that hard pressure to Sloan this week we'd be in for a great game. Sick 'em Bernie!

Sounds like curry & beer

I'll agree to disagree jnr Boyd had a good finals series and I'll go as far as to say that it would have been difficult for them to win the GF had he not been there. Many expected him to win the Norm Smith. I'd be very happy with that if I was a Bulldog fan. He hasn't set the world on fire this year, but he's playing as a full time ruck instead of fwd/ruck. His deal hasn't crippled the Doggies despite reportedly being on over $1mill. But that's is a matter of opinion. Laird and Yeo would be on $450k easy. To move again they'd now get $650-700. The avg last year was $309, this year probably around $320. With the new deal reportedly adding approx 20% that'd be about $380 avg for 2018. Kelly would want at least $800-900pa. I think Kelly will be an A grader by end of 2018, if not this year. Paying a bit over twice the avg AFL wage for this type of player will be cheap (as mind boggling as that is). If the media rumours are true and Norf have offered $1mill pa, I'd think that probably overs for him. I have no insider knowledge that indicates we might consider Kelly or he may be interested in us. He may not fit Goodwin's plans or be asking for too much, so the discussion could very well be moot. I certainly believe that if he showed interest and the price was around $850 for 2018 on a 4 yr deal it would be very tempting to consider.

Big call Norm

As many have pointed out, as recently as last year with Boyd at Bulldogs. Arguably BOG. With the new players agreement, $800k won't be a massive amount to pay an A grader (as obscene as that sounds). Wouldn't want to pay overs, and is clear we must retain or young stars, but IMO Kelly would offer what what we clearly lack: very high end outside polish that can impose upon a game. I've watched a number of GWS games where he has done just that.

Played only a few games at VFL after coming back from a knee reco. No. Not anywhere near ready yet.

Mate, who the hell knows what is rumour, half truth or full truth in these things. I agree we'll need to shore up our own talent first then trade for need. Having said that, if a guy like Kelly showed interest in us we'd be mad not to see if he and his price fit our club. I have faith in Todd Viney, Mahoney, Taylor and Jackson to maintain our list and finances within our means. We have gaps, one is a classy outside mid with leadership who can impose upon a game. IMO Kelly is that.

Norf wrote and mastered the 'Adelaide Plan'. Come out fast and hard, push the ball deep quickly. Pressure, pressure, pressure. Do not let them get on top early. Have a good lead at quarter time.