Grapeviney

Can you pls explain how a press conference is an opportunity to help himself? And why the need for "some words and emotion" from Mitch himself? Do you need to see him burst into tears before you believe it? FMD

Actually it's the Brent Heaver Trophy that's up for grabs. I still remember the headline the day after his five-goal debut against the Blues: "Heave a ho for Heaver"

Bomber fans seem pretty happy with Chappy after just 3 games.. But I agree with your point; his presence and impact seemed to far exceed anything that could be achieved in so few games.

hmmm the reaction was a bit mixed today from what i saw.. dairy farmers in particular not happy. in any case, the credit shouldn't be all this governments.. these (and other trade deals) were being pursued by labor, and even howard before, they just take time.

Hang on, Steam'n Demon has been picked in a back pocket and on the bench.. yet I'm running around in the twos or something?//

Was just relaying what I heard. I'm not a fan, but agree he went OK the other day.

Heard that too. Then they had a good chuckle at the fact that Byrnes and Pedo were commanding $$ way in excess of anything they'd get elsewhere, if indeed other clubs would have them..

Simon Eishold says hello!

Interesting idea TSFKA, definitely has merit. But to work it would really require the recipient (Mitch or Simon) to become the AFL's pin-up boy (for want of a better phrase) for mental health issues, which is a big ask, particularly if that person is still suffering at the time. You'd have to do interviews, talk about the battle etc. I've had to take extended leave from work on two occasions due to mental illness. The second time, it struck right before a massive team project at work - I couldn't take part in it, and like Mitch, felt despair that I was letting my colleagues down. We've all moved on now, but when we catch up for a beer, I still feel guilty, almost ashamed, that I wasn't around when the heat was on. I guess what I'm saying is, for most people, once the illness has subsided or passed, they're pretty keen just to get on with their lives and not have to relive the experience. And as posters in this and other threads have demonstrated, there's still a massive stigma associated with mental health issues which deters people from openly speaking about it, but I suppose that what your suggestion is trying to overcome.

Remember when we used to play well when our backs were against the wall? When the boys would get a roasting in the media and then come out and play their hearts out? What happened to that team? We lamented then that it took adversity to bring out our best, that we couldn't produce that form consistently... How I would kill for that now, the old one-week-on, one-week-off Melbourne.

A sad day for club and player. We miss his on-field leadership as much as his scoring power. Hope the dark clouds disappear soon.

Dude, you realise Darcy was joking when he said there should be a Royal Commission into it..

The MCC's current position is as it always has been - in the Northern / Olympic stand.

No, not really.. I've seen enough limp-wristed, one-armed tackles, half-ar*ed chases and lack of urgency around the contest to know what to expect by now. I guess I hoped / anticipated that Watts and others would - if nothing else - be willing to run through walls for Roos. Instead, there's probably barely a dozen players who play with that desperation and intensity throughout the game. The rest seem as uninterested as ever.

I wouldn't pay too much attention to what he said in that interview (if we're talking about the same one?) His words were very similar to what Roos wrote about him in the pre-season pen-pics in that season guide Heartbeat or whatever it's called, the one put out by the club. Pretty sure he was just mimicking the coach's words, "develop good habits" etc etc

Fancy being out-bustled by an ant..

There's about 30,000 of us who are already disenfranchised ...

I'd pass. He's been up his mum and his legless sister and he thinks he killed his dad!

I forgot to mention dropped marks, usually chest marks. Highlight of the day was watching Jack Watts get pushed out of a marking contest by Tom Scully. Pfffffffffftttttt

Like others, I'm getting tired and bored of the constant turnovers, the wayward kicks, the handballs to players standing still. It's the same nonsense, week in, week out. What's more astonishing is that some players are not - to borrow a phrase Daniel Cross used in the week - hellbent on winning. Absolute amateur hour.

Bingo. Sends a terrible signal to all.

It's a damning indictment on some of his team-mates - fancy having to be told that you need to be hell-bent on winning; surely the most fundamental prerequisite for playing AFL football. That it's even part of the discussion is more evidence of just how far away we are from being a competitive side.

Lol, so you expect her to know not only the exact order of the draft - which 'anyone' can nail - but also which players will be champs and who will turn out to be chumps? If she could do this, she would be the best recruiter in the country extremely rich from winning Tattslotto. I have no idea what you mean when you say she is ''reactive" and has gone ''mainstream'', suggesting she used to be proactive and on the fringe?? Que?

Perhaps you missed this NSC, which would be odd because it's about the NSC http://demonland.com/forums/index.php?/topic/36076-help-break-the-norm-smith-curse/