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Put this in the Grimes thread but relavant here also: I think Grimes is real chance of being picked this weekend, replacing Stretch. Good time to give Billy a rest with the bye coming up and Grimes is playing a similar role at Casey (wing/mid). It will be atough, wet game so an a mid twenties hardened AFL player will come in very handy. I also thought these comments from Plapp in this VFL player review were interesting and perhaps a indicator Grimes is a chance: 'He was taken off the ground at three quarter time due to some stuff at AFL level that we just needed him to be ready for but we were really happy with Grimesy.'

I agree. In fact i think he is real chance of being picked this weekend, replacing Stretch. Good time to give Billy a rest with the bye coming up and Grimes is playing a similar role at Casey (wing/mid). It will be atough, wet game so an a mid twenties hardened AFL player will come in very handy. I also thought these comments from Plapp in this VFL player review were interesting and perhaps a indicator Grimes is a chance: 'He was taken off the ground at three quarter time due to some stuff at AFL level that we just needed him to be ready for but we were really happy with Grimesy.'

Hi Vogon. Am i correct in assuming you have had a previous alias on DL? If so, for context would you mind sharing your alias history (as that function seems to have been lost with the transition to the otherwise excellent new site)

I agree he is at minimum standard, assuming you mean his minimum standard, if that makes sense. As you say the way he has played most of this season is minimum required standard, particularly his competitiveness. As someone else pointed out one of the impressive things about this season is how consistent he has been across games (but not as you have said always within games). This is super important as we can see the impact of forwards going missing in some games, in particular Kent and Gartlett. As i have said before 40 goals is what he should have been aiming for, though i would have been happy with 30-35 (perhaps setting the bar to low). Hard to argue that Gunston is the better player. At the moment. He has the runs on the board - though i would argue as permanent forward who's key go is marks on the lead he has benefited from one of the best mid fields ever and had Franklin, Roughie, Rioli and Bruest to keep defenders busy. But i can see Watts being better eventually as he is as classy and with his capacity to play up the ground he has few more strings to his bow. He will also benefit from an improving midfield and a forward line that soon will not be far off the Hawks one i just mentioned. But he would need to go up a level and also put 2-3 more really good seasons together. To go up a level he will need to keep being consistent, but also have a handful of games where he get 20 plus possessions (dragging his disposal average up above the 15 or it is at the moment) and one or two games per season where he blitzes the opposition and bags 5 or 6 goals. I think he has both of those things in him as he builds toward 150 games, his confidence keeps rising and the team around him keeps rising. We'll see. Perhaps my call from 3 years ago that he would make AA might come true. That might be a good bet! By the by i'm loving the avatar PD - warms my heart every time i see it and has allowed me to migrate to two of my favourite ever dees players.

Do it for Nasher redleggers! My dees mate reckons im crazy but i am super confident we'll win this one. In fact i predict a 40 point plus win. We match up supwr well against the pies, primarily because i don't think they have worked out their zone defense, which they need to to combat our high press game.

Thanks samael. A shame for viv. He'll get there. I hope.

Yet posters will continue to say all we need to do is win games to be rewarded with Friday night games. Like North and the bulldogs. Not. Prime time exposure continues to be ignored as a critical element of equalisation. I wonder why. Not.

Yep, that's my take. In particular i reckon he has not met the competiveness threshold in the last 3 weeks, most notably last week. Roos rule number 1. All players will be competitive

No, that can't be true. Seriously?

Calling Webber

Its funny you should say that. I was wondering if there was a chance he might get picked. I heard Viney say in an interview (to burgs?) the docs had said he'd be out for 3 weeks bu that he would be right sooner. Tough little bugger who would have kept running and doing weights so won't have lost any fitness. Put his hand in a big glove and let him play one handed.

Ok Stan, but apart from beating the Lions what did the Romans ever do for us...

Agree. The bit i have seen of the weed he just looks like a pure full forward. Natural leading patterns and terrific attack on the ball in the air. Not in build but he reminds me a bit of jason dunstall. Love that he's learning his craft at Casey. Once in seniors a triangle of watts, hogan and weed (out of tge square) will be a formidable forward line, particularly with Petracca as a wild card. Cant wait.

Nup, no they're not. Thank god. Gossage is a trained journalist who i actually have a bit of time for. Langdpn and hardie are dumb asre jocks that pander to the lowest common denominator

Agree. Harmes hasn't done enough last few weeks. Plenty of scope for improvement and a few weeks back at casey with some specific things to work on will be good for his development

He mentioned in a post match interview with burgs that he played wing but saw himself moving into the mid as an inside mid. I see him as our sam mitchell. Tough inside mid, good by hand, good vision and a good organiser

I reckon he plain misjudged it. He had 3 mtres on his opponent and wouls have known that. If he was going to shirk a contest he would have more of an effort to disguise it. That said it was a big stuff up. It ruined a terrific bit of ball movement and should have been a sure goal as if he had marked its (as he should have) he had a player wide, free and running to goal. Critical point in the match too. Whilst talking about garlett why on earth would the conditions of not suited a crumbing small forward?

Not me. My favorite time slot. Home by 5pm in time to cook dinner and avoid using up too many brownie points

Yep. And Hogan was completely unprepared for it. Dropped him and ran off. Very low act and one i's suggest the dees won't let go. I hope Viney plays next time.

Here is vision. Dog act. I hope Cegalr plays next time we meet them: http://www.afl.com.au/video/2016-06-06/off-air-vision-ceglar-gets-hogan

Gold

Totally agree with the bolded bit. Both got it spot on. Agree with the rest your post as well H_T and given that i have to say good points well made I was going to make a similar point about experience as the one you made in the second bit i bolded. Impossible to replicate the experience gained - and more importantly the development and learnings - by playing a high pressure game against the team who have won the last 3 flags lining up at Casey. Whilst i'm not adverse to them sending him back to the VFL at some point to consolidate his learnings or to ask him to focus on developing a specific aspect of his 'craft' however i'm firmly in the keep in the ones camp. And i'm a Dunn fan. Besides he played ok on the weekend and whilst some may not rate Burgans' analysis i assume most rate the footy IQ of Roos and Goodwin. Or perhaps not (cue calls of Roos admitting he got selection wrong on a number of occasions). They keep on picking him so i can only assume they think it is the right decision. But what would they know? Have to admire Roos. He has selected three super inexperienced players in Wagner, Hunt and OMac and thrown them in the deep end down back. True to his word he is about building a list that can win multiple premierships not protect his win loss ratio. Gutsy for a coach in the final year of a storied coaching career. Goodwin - who with demons fans, will reap the benefit - must love him.

Pfft. Those two wont get 4 between them. Hell the Pies will struggle to kick 8 collectively. I really hope Cloke gets selected. He is a complete liability. He doesn't do scoreboard damage and provides no run or forward pressure. For pete's sakes he barley scored a goal whilst in the VFL. All the hoo ha about Cox is based on the story not the reality. I'll worry when he starts getting more than 10 disposals.

Ta. Still a 2pm start means i can catch thye firts half then wander over to the g for the crows game. There should be more of these opportunities.

The Saints are pretty lucky to not cop more stick in the media for their losses. Much of the footy media still bracket us with them i reckon but whilst its tru they beat us they have been absolutely smashed on several occasions and we haven't. That suggest they have fair way to go.