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Yep. But one thing they def want/need is reaaly goos kicks. Lever, no 28, salem, hibberd and jetts all have twrrific de which is important in a defensive unit

Goody had this to say about Jack today: "Clearly there's a lot of hysteria around Jack and how he's performing, (but) he's improving," Goodwin said on Thursday. "His two games at VFL level show he's progressing and he's performing now to the level that we think is really appropriate. "We're really hopeful that Jack is continuing to improve and we're looking forward to seeing him play his best football shortly. "I've said this a bit and I'll say it again, because it's clearly something that's not getting through, Jack will be treated like every other player on the list." As someone said about him being dropped there is n mystery. he was out of form. Got dropped and now is back. He would have to play a howler not to get selected for the finals. But if he does have a howler i have little doubt he will be dropped. So perhaps from the perspective of being at risk of missing finals you are right and it is is his biggest game. but i can't agree that it is therefore a career game. So how about i amend my comment to partially mistaken.

I think you are mistaken in saying there's never been a bigger game for Jack Watts and that this is a career game.

Sorry, i think you have made a mistake

I am really confident he will.

What hobby horse? Stating facts?

There are fewer and fewer gorilla keepers and direct man on man defensive match ups as such. Someone like Dunn is becoming increasingly rare. Sure sometimes a Tmac might match up directly against a big but generally you try and stop the talls with your system. To a large extent it is about the oppositions total score not how many the key forward kicks (though obviously they have a relationship). Teams would factor in the players you mention are likely to kick 2 or 3 goals a game and if you limit them to that that's pretty good. And sometimes even 4 or 5 is ok depending on how well you shut down other players. If the lions had kept Jessie to 4 goals they would have almost won. Brown's 4 goals against us (three of which coming from marks from mismatches) in our last roos game wasn't the issue. We kept them to a beatable score. The dees only kicking two goals in the second half was the issue. Here is the top 5 in this years coleman. All are averaging 2-3 golas a game, with the exception of Kennedy who is averaging four. Joshua Kennedy 64 (from only 16 games!) Joe Daniher Essendon 60 Lance Franklin Sydney 59 Ben Brown North Melbourne 56 Taylor Walker Adelaide 49

Where is the confused button when you need it?

Thats a hazing ritual

I'm pretty sure the pies planned to take him. We got him first

I have to say it is looking very likely Lever is coming to the dees. The noise has been consistent, it seems a given he is leaving and the dees seem to be the favorite among journos etc

We also got hunt in that deal. Good deal i reckon

Agree, I didn't really notice that at the game (i miss heaps of stuff at the game as i am too involved emotionally). He had some shocking turnovers, one in particular. They really hurt too as he is often streaming forward, pulling everyone with him in that wave we love and a bad turnover means it often comes back into an out numbered defence. Without frost his run is critical and on the g he has more space. But oppo coaches are putting more work into him and he really needs to work on his kicking. His tackling was terrific as usual though.

Could not agree more. I am so sick of ex footballers dominating all aspects of footy media. Almost all are clueless about the modern game and every comment is based on their own experience as players. BT is just embarrassing. I heard him arguing 2 weeks back on Talking Footy that the demons had not improved.

Are the bolded bits rules? If so they must be the most frequently broken rules in all of Christendom! My suggestions? Please provide some inkling of a source for any rumor, particularly in the upcoming trade season. Feel free to use riddles Rumors are fun. Don't hold back (but please refer to point 1) If posting on a Changes threads, please make a distinction between who you think should be selected and/or dropped and who you think the match committee will actually pick and/or drop Welcome all.

Funny you posted this as i was typing my post. Snap. That goal on half time nearly caused my head to explode at the game. I was at the city end and so that mad scramble to clear the ball by Lions was right below me. I thought live Zorko dropped the ball and should have been pinged, giving us a shot on goal and potentially 15 point half time lead, which given we dominated the last 10 mins of that q seemed about right. My suspicion was confirmed on the replay, Zorko dropped it, but i also saw on the replay (and missed live) that Matheison looked as if he threw the ball. And then there was a miss kick Close marked and they were away. A 3 point lead at half time was not what the doctor ordered!

In my opinion

He will play

I watched the replay for the first time last night, having gone to the game. Some random thoughts: I found it a very tense game to watch live and i was unhappy that we did not kick away. But it was actually a pretty good game of football and we played pretty well. Credit to Brisbane who played terrific. Their midfield smashed us in the first quarter and a half. Gawn does not look right and we really miss Viney. But by god Oliver is something out of the box and Tyson is a terrific hard ball winner Watching AFL live is so much better than on TV. I find it so frustrating on TV not knowing what is ahead of a player. The classic is when they don't go and chip sideways or backwards. is it because there is no one up forward - as is often the case - or are they being risk adverse? I though the commentary team of Healy, Brown and Hudson was really good. Hudson is the best caller on TV these days i reckon. Quite dry humour that often seems to go over the head of his colleagues. as an example straight after Jessie got his 6th he said 'the joy of six for jessie'. Very droll Brown is actually a pretty good special comments man, particularly on forwards. Some interesting in game analysis One good example was his analysis of Jessie's first (?) goal with about 4:30 left on the clock in Q1. He highlighted that Brisbane are learning the zone defence that most teams are now employing and so McStay (i think) was a few metres in front and to the side of Hogan allowing him a free run at the ball as he didn't come across quickly enough (this happened a number of times, gifting Hogan and pedo simple marks). He said they will get better at this Healy noted that the issue was that there was not enough pressure on petracca, who kicked the ball in and zones will always struggle if you allow a player with the kicking skill and depth of someone like trac to kick without sufficient pressure Their midfield pressure was one factor in how poor some of our entries inside 50 were but the real culprit was again our poor disposal skills. Again too many missed targets. For me that is the key reason we can't put teams to the sword. We blow easy chances. That said were pretty efficient in terms of scores v entries As were they. Which was partly a function of our insufficient pressure in the first half but also some poor one on one efforts where our defenders were out marked. Hibberd gave up 2 or 3, Hunt one against the much stronger Rockcliff and TMac had a shocker with Nadal out bodying him a few times. His younger brother was not beaten once one on one and nor was our second AA back man nev. Pedo played another awesome game and looks super fit. Geez he has lost some weight since last year I really liked the Melks game (how about that left foot dart?) and Hibberd is fast becoming one of my favourite players Jones was awesome Vince got better. is slowing down but i think at the point end of the season that is off set by experience Lewis is coming good at the right time. I've loved his composure in the last 2 games and his kicking seems to have improved Can't wait until saturday

Looks a strong bugger. I think i heard the commentators say he was in the Storm under 19's side? Good long kick too

Are you sure about the final 22? This is from an article posted today on the MFC site: Now in its fifth year, 22Under22 is the industry’s only recognised fan-voted award and provides the footy public with the power to select the final 22. Fans can now visit 22under22.com.au to cast their vote, before the final team is revealed at the AFL Players’ MVP Awards on Tuesday September 12. Fans who submit a team that matches the final 22Under22 team will automatically go into the draw to win an AFL Players' prize pack. Voting closes on Wednesday September 6, 2017. Maybe i should do bot spam for TMac's younger brother

Talking about them both. Deifing one. Vilifying the other.

Yep, agree. I'd add that if he doesn't play with the required intensity goody will drop him and he won't play finals. I doubt that will need to be made clear to Watts but i also have no doubt it will be. And Watts will be in doubt that goody is deadly serious. Watts will be selected. And it will be his own personal elimination final. Salem might well be in the same boat.

I give up

Yes, very good points. I agree with your list, though i'm not convinced trac will finish top 10 as there have been quite a few games where he has not done much. The bluey system rewards consistency (which is why you are probably right about Oliver winning it - how remarkable would that be!) and from the mid point of the year Tmac's younger brother has consistently done his job and will poll ok to well in every game. Betting with you 55 would not be nearly so much fun - and besides you don't really want Tmac's younger brother as your avatar!