binman

Great field in the Stradbrolke. One of my favourite races and my mate and make an off seaspn exception for this race most years. Post dees match i backed material Man and took Max Almighty for a place in the preceding race at Belmont (i love vibe bet and Maxy had just played another pearler). I think changing trifecta strategies to suit the race is smart and boxing 5 not a bad idea as a rule. With trifectas i often like standing out a winner one out (often, but not always, the fav) and having two or three (or more) to come second and third. If the winner is not super short can sometimes be vale (and even if short can get value if a longshot fills a place)

Material man and achensr star fellas

Not really. I use the winning post. It used to come out thurs arvo, which gave me couple of days/nights to do my form properly. It now comes out Friday, which is very annoying as it only gives me a day to do my form. I then make my final betting choices sat morning - which i would do anyway as i like to see how the tracks are (good, slow etc) and what the market is doing in terms of of working out our staking.

By the by Macca i really like racenets form guide lay out. To be honest i don't like doing form online, partly out of habit t i suspect but key reason is i like to mark the form with a highlighter as i do it (things that appeal, horse i select) then mark the horses at the ned of the process i have selected in each race. Another big factor is i do my form on the train often (or out and about) and using the phone is pretty hopeless I find each online form has its strengths but each misses something, for example official ratings - so i often look at multiple sites. I like racing.com's form, but they only have vic races. Punters.com is probably the best i have seen (and actully really good on the phone) till now but race.net is better.

Lets hope my placegetters don't win again

Haven't looked at the races but my preference would always be Ascot. As i have said before i'm wary of races held at tracks like Sunshine Coast. Ascot on the other hand is fair track that is always in great shape and all horses have their chance - even if they have not raced there before or often. Plus Darren Mcaulley is the best race caller in the county in my humble

hold the press

Forwards don't win brownlows, mids do. Wait a minute... what about forwards who cover more ground than most mids, averages 20 plus possessions, takes bundles of marks all over the ground and kicks 2-3 goals a game?

Well, if my memory serves me correctly the 'he' is doctor operating in the Brighton area. That should narrow it down a bit.

Looking forward to the DEES GET OUT THE GAFF HOOK headline

Close. Box up our horses and again we would have snagged the first four

Shizen, sorry fellas. Been busy and clean forgot till just then. Getawy and Destiny's Kiss for Randwick and Endless Drama and Champagne cuddels for Doomben.

I will do the form for this race tonight and post my two place getters

Blimey, we will have a pretty good starting 5 bball team

Apologies. As a newbie to the picking the place getters i forgot i had to pick two. Next time i'' get it right. By the by i would have selected Egg tart (honest) for my other place getter, as i was um and ahhing between Egg tart and Coming Through. Brilliant horse early doors who has struggled a bit of late

Ok. I'll take Coming Though for place. The type of horse i really like. Gives you a good sight very time and rarely runs a bad race. Started fav last start and never really got out but was only 2.5 lengths behind the very impressive winner Oregon Day (who i tipped). Is 12 4-2-1 in the good ground. Comes in ok at the weights carrying 59 as a 108 rater, though not nearly as well as Oregon Day who is carrying 2kgs less and is only 3 rating point behind at 106

Happy with picking the place horse, particularly in a 200 metre race. That distance sorts the wheat from the chaff a bit and unlike in 1600 metre races don't get those pesky 1400 metre horses that get a good run and snag a place. Just had a quick look at the filed. Pretty strong.

They're not?

Yeh too right. The last thing our sponsers and club want is exposure to a national audience on the highest rating show on TV. Fools. PJ is really losing his touch.

Nup, home game for pies at the g

Redzel is a fantastic horse and will be mighty hard to toss. Not bad odds actually. But seeing its taken ill pick Le Romain. A quality horse third up after a 4th first up agianst trapeze aritist, then a brave second to that horse (still annoyed i missed that quin). Thats a very good form line.

And still criticise him for trying to help....

From that article Salem is a lock to be selected. ANB seem the obvious out i would have thought. But you never no. For the umpteenth time goody is quoted as saying they have preapared Viney for AFL footy. Which im really pleased to hear. I was worried they were preparing him for curling.

Haven't done form for today (as i have said my Autumn has finished) so no best bets but my thoughts on today's group races based on recollection of the exposed form of the horses through Autumn. You have to give Qualista a good chance today. Like Savacool, a horse that always runs well. Gets out in front and challenges other horses to catch it and i've said before on this thread i really like good horses that sit on the speed. Similarly Sprightly Lass is terrific race horse that does not know how to run a bad race. Looks good value i reckon. Desert Lashes will surely test it though. A good horse. I backed Savapinski last start and it looks to deserve favoritism. But perhaps a little short? I backed Jester Halo and odds last start and it blundered the start, which is always poor but worse when it is a horse that likes to sit on the speed. Came home against the pattern for a fighting 4th and if it gets away allright today has to be chance. Has 3.5kg pull in the weights from Savapinski and due a win. Coming Through is really good horse and deserves favoritism in the Hollindale i would have thought but i would not be shocked if Oregon Day runs a bold race. Has been there or thereabouts this Autumn in four group races without winning (three very close seconds and last start 2.9 length 4th to Alizee). At each way odds.

Oscar must be approaching afl standard.....