binman

Welcome back GNF. Not sure why but you seem to really upset some posters. Don't mind them. Haters gonna hate. Just one thing though it's not true that 100% of demonlanders dismissed your Roos prediction. I didn't - so much so i cracked him to be our coach and had a nice collect on it. I think Hogan will re-sign. But just a vibe. Sure the go home factor is big but as i've said before Freo are on the way down and i'm not convined about WC being a real threat for a flag in the next few years. Add the travel and living in a fish bowl to that and WA doesn't look too appealing i would have thought. However what gives me most confidence is Goodwin's comments earlier this year about how brilliant it is is to be involved in a young group all developing together and getting a collective reward, how the clubs focus should be on creating such an environment and that if we do Hogan will likely want to stay (my interpretation of the last bit admittedly). Well i can sense exactly that vibe growing and Hogan will want to be a part of it, And i can imagine so would Prestia.

Fair enough. I would add to my previous comment that in the time i have followed the dees the only player who i have heaped such praise on or made such a big call is Schwarz. No other player has come close, including Neitz who was AA in his second or 3rd year (i was only 6 when Robbie began his career and hence a bit young for such predictions).

Disagree. The most talented kp player i have seen enter the league since riewold and pavlich and comparable in talent to the ox and carey. Genuine superstar and most def a generational player

None of the players you have listed are always elite under pressure, no player is. For example Salem shanked the ball a number of times under pressure in that Roos game. Watts is the best kick in our team, both under pressure and when shooting for goal. No one else i rather have the ball in at a vital moment in a match. He is technically the best kick and weights the ball to leading players better than anyone in the team and as good as anyone in the league.

I assume you have elite and super elite categories and have Watts as the sole MFC player in the super elite category. So far the best kick in the team its not funny.

The bookies would never, ever take that bet. Never. Ever.

For reasons i've outlined before i can't see Hogan wanting to return to WA (mainly related to the burden of travel, but as private fella i can't see him enjoying the fish bowl in a two team provincial town) but for the sake of argument lets say he is considering a move back home. As a competitive beast Hogan, like most players, priority will be playing in and winning finals. If he honors his contrast with the dees then any move would be for the 2018 season. I reckon Freos premiership window will be closed by then and more than likely they will be back in the rebuild phase. I can't see him wanting to be part of a rebuild again, particularity if the club he has been laying at is reaping the reward of its rebuild (on the current trajectory we should be a top 4 side in 2018 - i hope!). WC might still be a realistic chance of a flag then but would need to keep building and not go backwards. They do have Kennedy but of course would take Hogan if available. So i can't see him at Freo, leaving only one WA club for him to do a deal with. But as i say i can't see him returning to WA and we will be in a position to match almost any offer.

I like how they have been discounted already.

That's something ive really noticed as well. From the games and training reports the vibe seems supper positive and the camaraderie just terrific. Watch Salem's goal. After he kicks it he is all smiles and his teammates swarmed him. Oliver was laughing and you could just see the positivity and connection. Similarly after Bugg's goal his teammates really got around him (was it his first goal for the club?). Great to see and it is what Roos has been working on

Sounds like your average descent into ice addiction

He may not have to. I'm sure WC would pay whatever it takes to get him and there is avery strong argument to say WC are much closer to a flag than Freo playing in a winning GF team is one of Fyfe's key motivations.

Funny http://titusoreily.com/melbourne-chat-to-jesse-hogans-manager/

A nice bold, big Ben Hur Shiraz? Or perhaps a Sharp Hannibal syrah?

‘‘He (Roos) was one of my favourite coaches with what he did at Sydney, and I was hoping to be drafted to Melbourne so I could learn from him so it’s all a bit surreal." Two words. Destination club.

It says something about disastrous a pick Cool was at 12 that your comment was a joke.

I posed a question on either this thread or the judgement one about the Melk taking a voluntary suspension. Essentially my question was if the Melk took a voluntary suspension from the end of the last season if it would come off any penalty? It wasn't clear if they had already factored this off season in but it is clear now they didn't so i assume he could have chosen to take a voluntary suspension. The start play then would have been the dees to advise the Melk to take a voluntary suspension from the end of last season (assuming we were planning then to take him, which i assume is the case). Before the suspension came into effect they could have devised a training program for him. He then doesn't come to the club at all during the suspension. If that had occurred he would have another 4 months shaved of his suspension meaning he would be eligible to train in May 2016 and play in July 2016. If they ended up getting off then no harm done. Either way the dees look smart and prudent. Obviously all the EFC players could have done the same thing. The writing was on the wall so why not?

The importance of this can't be underestimate in terms of our decision to draft him. Roos has been unequivocal about the need to build a team of players with strong values and good character. Crucial element of the Roos rebuild of the MFC and the culture he is trying (successfully i believe) to develop.

Thanks. I read somewhere that he might slot into a third tall role early dawes

And what position? A true full forward with Jesse chf? Has he played mainly out of the square?

Assuming he is injury free what is the likliehood of him playing next season?

100% agree. The fact that he had a brilliant second half of the season, played solid VFL games and did well at the combine might have keen factors in deciding to make him our target but that is very different from him being a 'bolter'. I have little doubt the club has had Chunk jnr on their radar for the last two years given the directive from Roos as to what sort of player he wanted them to recruit with our first (and subsequent) pick; ie a physically strong, competitive, see ball get ball beast. I could also imagine Roosy saying it would be nice if that player is a good chance to be AFL ready come round 1 next year. Cj ticks all those boxes.

Inetersting - if true - that according to the article most clubs rate him no 3

He describes Curnow as a mid who can go forward (or vice versa), comparing him to Stringer. McKay is a KPP

The vibe

By that criteria I have to admit there is little chance I will be selected as a Category B rookie. Bummer. Would have been quite the story.