Demon17

I think you will be posting this again in 2022 with 'I tipped this ' caption. If a player with suspect disposal is to improve it will be at the Dees. Think anb fritsch even Brayshaw. Dunstan will be seen as inspired possibly with saints then including him in the mccartin/Trac conversation as another list mgt. debacle..

And he interrupted Daisy as she was explaining what really happened.

I'll pay for the removalists van for Mr and Mrs Jacksn myself if needs be. Hell, I'll even push the trolley gladly.

Spargo's pass into Fritsch in final 1/4 of the GF nailed the Premiership, and Dogs knew then there was no hope. I'll take a high IQ footballer every day of the week - Spargo has been this from Day 1.

Yes 1 from 1 in the last 20 years is unbelievable. Also the usual narrative is that a team needs to fail a few Prelim's or a few previous finals series failures first to harden up or understand what it takes to succeed. Roos in the 90's, as an example. Dees effort in 2021 even more impressive. Saints had it in 2010 but no chances since , and when other teams supporters see the 2021 PF and GF master classes, many will wonder how on earth their own team is up to it for the next few seasons. (excl. probably Power, Dogs and Lions fans maybe)

What better signal than the end of the prelim level era. 3 cats only also , 2 being defenders and the other a 34 year old forward. Surprised Guthrie didn't get a spot though.

Great point QD. I thought the same looking at each from 50 downwards would each player displace a Dees member. Still haven't found one, primarily because each part of the Dees makes up the whole. Who else can gut run and apply pressure like ANB for example?. Not Bailey Smith thats for sure.

Agreed and I noted Scott was a very good coach for all your reasons above. But each year pencil in 9 home game wins and your on a roll. Its a matter of where you land in the 8, not, IF you make the 8. Transitory view of success showed out in the Prelim in an embarrassing manner

Right on all counts CW, but I reckon now the chickens have come home to roost and the cats false sense of entitlement over past lost decade, unsuccessful in GF terms, have left them nowehere to hide now and nowehere to go for next few years. I also suspect their idea of being a detsination club who plays finals won't cut it with top players . Jeremey Camerons ambiton for a flag disintegrated at the hands of the Dees publicly in the Prelim. Window shut that night.

The 'next Dangerfiedl' doesn't grow on trees. They and him had their turn/window and its over. We have the next Dangerfiel (arguably better IMO) - Trac, Oliver, Jackson, Sparow..... Other teams also are better placed in this regard

The above stats are often quoted but an unrealstic guide to the Cats ability . Each season they are 'guaranteed 8 or even 9 wins at home due to the draw not scheduling games against big teams in Geelong. Think Suns, Freo, sydney .... Threats such as Bombers, Tiges, Dogs, Pies rarely ever or never play there over the past decade. Their problem will be in 2022 if the Dees are to play down there. That's one loss coming up. Understandable given crowd size limts. But this skews the outcomes and almost locks in at least a top 8 finish each year, only needing to win 4 or 5 games away from home. Then when the heat is on at the end of the year , it shows. Scott is still a very good coach but its a whole-of-club problem they need to address. The ground dimensions don't help them away either. Their record is an outlier is all I'm saying and not a predictor of finals sucess at the prelim/GF level when they play serious opposition at the G -(or Optus in WA).

Surety the whole prelim finals record would be a signal to them that change is needed. Cats and media see this as a badge of honour. Sen callback yeyerday had plenty of calls about not renewing a membership etc. Unless change comes.

He opted for what he could get and the team he could get to for acceptable money and coming home. Dees were never ever a chance. A deal is 2-way and we had nothing to offer. Everyone's happy at Demonland (to quote Luke Dunstan and to watch the premiership celebrations) But Cerra will always think what might have been I guess. Good luck to him though.

Good call. Kane Cornes raised this issue yesterday. Cerra and Hewitt can't simply go to thr Blues and be nice players doing a role. They must become bona fide stars fro what they are on and what the Blues have given up. . I think he referenced some melb players in comparison, Trac and another, but I may be wrong. I have never seen so many A-graders in the one Dees team as we have now. Its incredible to contemplate 2022.

Thanks. I feel better and your post should be compulsory reading.

Wines actually said that in his brownlow interview. Brownlow or norm smith. ? No contest.

Thanks for this. Imagine the difference in culture and , as he hinted, happiness, compared to the Saints locker room. Got to be part of his thinking. The finals confirmed the potential dynasty next 4-5 years that everypne can see coming. Why not try and be a part of that in the back end of a career?

I trust Jason Taylor and the team for sure but I wonder what the young midfielders (potentially) see in this given they have proven themselves already. Dunstan is walking into a superlative team and I can't see how this makes us better. Depth is everything and we are down one with Nathan Jones gone so maybe its just that.

He can and he will. Proven premiership standard contributor.

Fantastic call DS. I felt that we needed to be 'on' from the start, being used to giving away big leads early in seasons past. Trac's goal said ' here we go', who says we'll be lethargic after 1 game in 28 days crap. and my nerves settlled from then on.

Reasonable transition period and smart management by Pert and others to identify the successor so far out. Burgess was great but he had whole -of- team buy in also, so should work out OK.

Not related to this thread but I was struck how poor a runner Bailey Smith was after half Time. No chasing even in the forward line. Noticed these sort of minor details after a dozen or so watches. Langdon, named by Kane Cornes today as the league's best gut runner, seemed to be on his own all last 1/4, and deep into 3rd.

Your'e right on Montagna 4th Ages. but in analysis he was strong on the ' how to stop lever ' theory as if that was the solution to beating the Dees. Not how good the talent was across the ground, and that nobody had really unlocked the ability to do it anyway.

The theme of his earlier comments was that Burgess was good but won't add anything special that others can't. And mentioned the Blues fitness coach as the best around. It was part of his commentary on the ' times up for delivery' and suspected they may not.

Sparrow is an unbelievable cheerleader on the ground. He jumps in the air and just loves seeing a team mate do something great. Watch his celebration after max's running goal in the Prelim I think.