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Great summary Loges. This is the big red herring. Dogs by the same logic have played 1 game in 21 days. Again, this isn't true. The agreed best conditioner in the AFL, Darren Burgess, will have addressed this, and in the first few minutes on Saturday night , at least one commentator will say"..Gee the Dees are really on tonight..", or "... this break seems to have had no effect on the Dees...", or "...Gee I think the longer break has actually helped the Dees..." and finally "....gee don't the Dogs look tired, and keath has just re-done his hamstring...", and "...Stefan Martin could sure have used a few more runs before the GF the way Max and Luke are running him around the park..." or some other similiar bleedingly obvious cliches.

Scary. And 3 out of 3 on On the Couch tipped Melb too. All by 2 goals plus Norm Smith tips were: garry Oliver Nick Petracca Brown Max (Brown showing off his Max Gawn beard from the Herald Sun) Healy Jack Viney On the Couch won the 2021 AFL Medai Assoc Best Football Program, which having access to it for the first time across the season I completely agree with. Top show.

I'm confident they learnt their lesson from Round 19. Max had 56 hitouts and Dogs win clearances by 8 I think, maybe more. The Dees coaching group will have this planned to deal with and have the talent to do it.

yes Keath is an interesting one as it seems to keeping popping up in commentary about his injury, being tested, may be ok etc. Brown's runnign will be a challenge. Luke Jackson could well be a trump card for allowing the Dees to just keep running pressure on all day against Martin and/or English.

Is this code for sore and tired. Martin played about 60% game time, the lowest of any dogs player except the injury sub.. he's probably still stuffed from that effort. Gee I hope Bevo selects him.

Well summariesd I reckon. I have been looking at the Dees run of the last 6 games all for wins. We've conceded an everagae of 8 goals a game. There is zero chance of the defence not playing their style of game. One of the best coaches, Chris Scott, had 24 weeks to figure out how to stop May and Lever. Gross Fail. Even with May off. Its the system design that counts.

Good point. I looked at Goodes but felt he was a bit like Jim Stynes who created a ruck-type role for himslef but was playing more like a large midfield who could ruck. Point still stands. The midfielders who now monopolise the award are all pretty good though.

As Henry Ford said "..History is more or less bunk..." Now if this statistical genius understood what he was quoting, and understood stats that are not necessarily basedon the same premise, condtions, etc are generally meaningless with regards to predictions. This year is not like any other year let alone the last 8, due to the non-existent pre-finals bye and the pre- GF bye unique to 2021. This renders all recent history meaningless. For the dim-witted as an example I will note as follows: For the past 16 years (a good sample size) the QF winners go on to win their PF 28 times out of 32 or 88% of games. Yet this year only 1 of the 2 QF winners won their PF, (the Dees) , thus a rate of 50% chance. Port Power had an 88% chance of winning, and given the travel of the Dogs and home ground advantage should have had probably a 95% chance - but they lost. Due to the whole Bye discontinuity in the football universe. Possibly why Wines showed such dissappointment tonight not making the GF Get it Swamp boy? I'm not on Twitter so I suppose he'll have to just get this by osmosis or something.

This is truly a shocking stat. By his speech Wines would trade places with Oliver for a GF spot in a heartbeat.

29 years since a non-midfielder won it. But I'd argue I would have S. May in our team ahead of any of the 30 or so midfield vote winners from other teams. May will deliver a flag, the others just deliver lots of stats.

In our last big showing in 2018 when Angus came 3rd, for interest I looked at Clarries performance that year. 13 Votes in 6 games, only 2 times 3 Votes. Look how far he's come in this period. Fantastic effort and just rewards this week. And now 29 years since a non-midfielder won it, and even that was a ruckman - scott wynd

Tracs oufit was the winner. Sartorial excellence if ever i saw it.

The palyers don't select the teams. Coaches do. Case rested.

And the lowest game time of the entire doggies list last match. Understandable in the circumstnaces, but I smell an opportunity.

And they're rarely junk time goals either. e.g. last week. Kicked when the heat was on, including set ups.

Absolutely Faulty. Given taylors track record, this isn't soem random thought bubble. Fascinating to watch. Also fascinating will be watching Cerra's presser outlining why he chose the Blues over the destination club (both performance and culturally), the Dees. If he does.

In Taylor we trust - but please not at the expense of the culture and cameraderie of the group. (a la Woey)

At last someone has spelt it out fro what it is. A media discussion angle to fill space. Doggies are 1 game in 21 days by the same standrads touted. We have the leading fittness and conditoning team. That will address any issues we have re fitness or hardness.

That was an amzing statement on Footy CLassifed by Ross last week. From someone of his calibre. His stocks aren't really rising at the minute Yet the bleeding obvious was what actually happened. Lloydy stuck with the Dees nevertheless in that exchange.

There has been a reasonable number of complaints on here about media analysis, game callers etc. From myself and many others. The AFL media Association has just announced Daisy Pearce as the winner of the 2021 Best Opinion/Analyst Award. Justly deserved and how good is that.

So you know him personally do you?

Each game they play I see Tmac and BBrwon as a natural and complimentary duo. Bot with different characteristics.

Does Ross have the mathematics behind his exponential prediction? Does he know how this differs from say linear increase...... Sheeesh.

Great work again by Jason taylor. Like James Jordan, from Day 1 he looks like he belongs. Huge successful era coming up - if not already arrived and we just don't know it yet.

Port beat the swans and GWS in 2021 - no other finalists (i don't count the marvel win against the dogs - it was as good as a draw.) The Port season had an easy draw and they were the most underwhelming 2nd place team in history. They have been grossly over-rated as was the Dogs win last week against them. The Dogs as a consequence are the most over-hyped GF participant. They are not the Bombers in 2000, Hawks in 2013-2015 , not Lions in 2002 - 2003. The Dees are. That's fine of course, its all a matter of opinion. I still rate the cats and they were crushed by " the hottest team ' ever, according to Isaac Smith. The media can write the sob story of the Doggies travails afterwards.