old dee

I didn't say there were none. Just more common in north and west.

Tigers favourite areas are the grasslands of the north and west. Not so much in inner Melbourn of the east.

I have never been a big fan but saying he should go is crazy. This year we were hit badly with injuries, we lost Gus before the first ball was bounced. IMO that is the major reason we missed finals. We would not have made the GF but injuries ruined our season.

I don't think I owned a towel like that.

I have been hearing talk about sandown being sold for 20+ years and it still hasn't been even listed for sale. If that is the hold up we will both be in the ground before the first mfc player trains at Caulfield dc.

You have my vote Jack.

He is a classic not quite right. Good at vfl level not at the top level.

Whatever game plan you have you need 7-8 very good players at the top end of talent. We no longer have that number. IMO the players you have mentioned in the past have to go from useful to very good I don't see that talent in them.

He is average most weeks. Good last 6 players picked a replacement for Gus he isn't.

You are talking about a future conservative government. Won't happen this decade.

I am not one who believes in over censorship however I don't see that anything is now being achieved in this thread. It is time to close it.

I hope you are right. They are average senior players IMO. They are ones you have around very good players.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder mono. They are not players you build a team around. They are the also players.

And?

Fullerton! You are not alone. He is not a youngster, played quite a few games at the lions. Comes to us, we lose forwards to injury. That would seem to be the situation we recruited him for. But spends the season at Casey with a number of good games. Why on earth is he on the list As for JVR, Mcvee and Turner All three are serviceable players but not world beaters. If we don't get a good KBF and a good mid we won't play finals in 2025

No they were in brown paper bags.

I am standing next to you. I don't understand why we have to spend millions on a overseas performer on GF day. Isn't the game enough?

I heard it was a tram with a Connie ringing the bell Biffen.

There lies the problem dc. Avoiding the boys club stuff.

There are two inescapable facts in any future homes. 1) we will need contributions from government. 2) the state government is broke they cannot even afford to keep the hospital system functioning at required levels. There will be no money spent on a perceived silver tails football club. Nothing will happen this decade. So get your minds around our current bases at Goschs and Casey. END of story!

Not so much, appears to have no markings ability in packs which is not uncommon in footy of the 21st century. Perhaps I am being hard on him because without another KPF he gets the best defender every game, then spends a third of every game in the ruck which severely affects his out put as a KPF. . I just don't see him as in the best dozen KPF's. Being a kpf in the Dees team doesn't take much we have two defenders trying to fill in that role.

It's just using the Van part of his name. However seeing it is causing grief I will try to do better in the future. Oh what is your opinion of his ability?

Players make coaches not the other round.

We need to replace Gus ( not easy he was top rank) get a top level KPF Vander is useful at best probably better if he didn't ruck 35% of games. I have watched a number of games over the last month, Vander isn't in the top 25 KPF's. Petty and Turner are backmen pure and simple. They will give us good forward games against the bottom 10 teams but little against the top 8. Those two as kpf's won't win us a flag. The biggest one is a low injury list. Pies won the flag last year and injuries turn them into average this year.

Not a senior level player.