old dee

I have thought all along this is just wishful thinking on our part. Jackson is not leaving Freo. Our recruiting lies elsewhere.

JVR is no thin weakling why was he so poor as a forward. He will no doubt play against port as we wait for Johnson to finish his suspension. If you think Jefferson could not do better on monday then will he ever?

I have always thought that getting Jackson was a fairy story. However what if we added JVR to the trade?

I think it is a good move Dr. I hope Kossie realises for this money you don't get reported. We can now concentrate on fixing our kpf problems. Fix that and we can start 2026 with a real chance of GF appearance.

Nope he will kick the winning goal and we will think the deal is good value.

Good news! I used to worry about the length of deals like this one however after seeing the buddy deal unfold the Swans who got value even though he never got them a premiership from the move. Who knows how Kossi will feel in 5 years time he may still want to return home but we will have locked him in for the medium term which is all you can hope for in the 21st century. My attention now turns to get our KPF problems improved. Go Dee’s!

100% agree!

If JVR continues his current form then it is vital to get a very good 2nd ruck / KPF. i have always thought that Jackson returning was a pipe dream but who knows.

I don't Rif. If Johnson was available i think he would have got the nod and JVR would have been at Casey. IMO right now Johnson is giving us more than JVR has all season. Other than a game against a much poorer side in Sydney his performance at Casey has been average. This year his results at Casey and in the senior side have not been what we saw in his first year. No one seems to know the answer to why he has digressed into a poor KPF .

Take Away JVR's touches in the ruck and there very little left of his ingl JVR is a kpf of very average ability I hope to god we don't play against Port

When are we going to play Jefferson. I am not a big fan but in his first game he got 2 goals. In his second he broke his hand in the first quarter. Since then a couple of good games at Casey. Why emergency yesterday so he didnt play a game anywhere. Play him or let him go to somewhere where they will give him a chance.

He can hardly be worse than JVR and Petty. But we are now not viaing for a finals spot so let's try some guys at Casey to see if they have any worth at senior level. Jefferson comes in for JVR as a start. Leave Petty in to do the second ruckwork. It's now 2026 preparation time.

Why was he an emergency yesterday? He played in neither game at the weekend and there is a bye for the seniors. So back to Casey this weekend. I would rather him play yesterday Instead of JVR. Petty could have filled in the ruck role. It is hard to see Jefferson giving us less than JVR yesterday. Of course we will never know. But give the guy a game for God's sake. What's to be lost we are no longer playing for a finals spot.

We we are crying out for a KPF. His contribution in that role yesterday was zero. 1 Goal from him and we win. He has not played in a winning game this year so his contribution as a forward and back up ruckman has produced zero wins. Johnson's contribution as back up ruckman has been as good and his efforts as a forward average however he looks keen and gives 100% every game. I would rather him as a team mate than JVR.

IMO having 4 umpires has made it worse. The talent pool is stretched too far and having 4 increases the difference of decisions. Decisions at one end of the ground can be different to the other end. How do all four umpires plus boundary umpires miss players lying unconsious on the ground? Back to 3 for me of course the AFL will never admit an error.

So it is ok for jvr to take 13 marks against a Preston who aren't even of a VFL standard but ignore Jefferson's 5 goal game against Sydney. It seems we have 2 standards here. Let's not kid ourselves JVR is getting games because he is useful as a back up Ruckman, his ability in 2025 as a KPF has been poor. Jefferson deserves games in the senior side now. If not let him go to a side that will give him a chance at senior level.

When Hehas played there in the past is ok against the lower teams but not the top sides. Let's use him back where he is best.

They are both Backman they won't solve the KPF problem.

JVR, should never had been played this week. Form at Casey was average against the two bottom teams. IMO he only came because Johnson was rubbed out.

Picket fence are you out there? I never thought I would say this " we have to play Jefferson for the next 4 games" all the other KPF's on our list are not up to the job. We drafted Jefferson as a KPF. So let's find out if he has the goods. We sure won't find out playing him at Casey any longer or not playing in either team as an emergency. Play the kid for God's sake.

He isn't at the club yet. We have tried drafting kids. We have tried bring in second time players from other clubs, we even tried to find a diamond in the rough at Werribee. We have even tried turn back men into forwards It ain't easy. You have to keep turning over players till you snag a good KPF. We don't even need a champion just a good reliable player who who performs week in week out. We have to give Jefferson some games in a row to see if he can be that player. I doubt it but we won't know unless he plays at the top level.

I actually think he only got a game because Johnson was suspended. With his current form we would be better off playing Tmac in the roll.

Will he be missed? I doubt it! We have not won a game for the year with him in the team.

Another blinder from JVR. A goal from him and we win. Sorry he is not a KPF of senior level quality. Can we please play Jefferson for the next four games, it is hard to see him offering less. This year is gone let’s try players that may be the future and find out their value. Where we finish now doesn’t matter what is important is to gauge the untried players on our list.

Mostly agree Joe!