Bitter but optimistic

Nothing is bigger than Ben Hur - we all realize this. However there is a bizzare appeal to ignoring yourself. What happens to your posts? Are they just little pearls floating around in the ether. Do those beautiful hurtful insults just drift away into mediocracy? It's sort of like playing with yourself. It deserves consideration.

Biffo, have you put yourself on your ignore list? You should consider this.

I must ask this. Why do you "ignore" posters? I would have thought a bit of argie bargie and putting the knife in was much more fun.

H t's clip brought a tear to my eye. Geez Robbie was beautiful to watch and the only bright spot in some very dark days for Melbourne.

I don't believe this. I'm inept with technology but i figured some smart demonlander would create the link to what is a great article. Surely dandeeman and myself aren't the only ones who read the Age (despite she who has one and is one). BTW dandeman I clicked your profile by mistake - I'm not stalking you.

What would Jack Dyer have done with that name?

That is clearly changing. Read the two page spread in today's Age by Emma Quayle. It provides a very interesting insight to the up to date (cutting edge?) training methods that are now employed at Melbourne. The Shannon Byrnes quote in that article says it all. Someone please do the link thing.

So you're not just a shallow poster with a pretty face?

OK at least you're reconciled to your fate.

I hope that's not the "Exclusive Brethren" ?

Jeez, knock it off you blokes,, I'm tearing up.

There seems to be some conflict here. You say you try to "minimize it"yet you "hate it" when people can't remove such bias

It means that BH or anyone, for that matter, who thinks they are truly without bias is deluding themselves.

We all have bias. It comes from our age, our environment, our education, our sexuality, our being a melbourne supporter etc. etc. You are kidding yourself if you think you provide views, opinions without bias. Bias reflects who we are.

Fair enough.

"white only underwear"!!!! Extreme racist connotations.

Your reply is unnecessarily brusque. Unfortunately, I don't know Jack (please don't pick up on that statement) so I won't be taking it up with him. However, I was not aiming to be polemical, but simply to state that, in my observation, people who hold extreme views are rarely objective and , ipso facto, your argument was flawed.

I haven't really followed the above discussion but I do take issue with this comment. I'm not sure you can be objective at the same time as holding an opinion "no matter how extreme"

Thanks Biffo - I'm going to bed. And instead of counting sheep, I'll count Biffos all dressed up.

In my experience a lot of those family first type f******s are dead set hypocrites, so going to a convention, dressed up as you suggest, might well prove profitable.

It's a slow night on D'land. Can you please be more offensive and get some argie bargie happening or I shall fall asleep?

Maybe I've had too many reds - well actually I have. But you have to explain this one. You didn't kiss him or anything did you?

Naturally. I have also imposed an Amish style "shunning".

I've supported the Dees for over 50 years. So for me, like many others on this forum, loyalty is a non negotiable and we automatically kick in our annual fees. My son, however, is of a more economic rationalist generation where performance or "return" is the only measuring stick. Loyalty falls far down the list. He will not pay this year because he thinks Melbourne's performance did not repay his investment. He will support football in general and go to what he considers matches that provide good value for money. He will follow football rather than Melbourne. I cannot understand this phenomena but I believe it is growing. And yes - I have, obviously, failed as a parent.

Posted 10 November 2012 - 11:07 AM My optimistic side just jolted out of control and I put $50.00 to win $500.00 via sportsbet for Dees to make the eight. As you can see fro the above , I've already put my money where my big mouth is and the subsequent training reports I've read have only confirmed my "optimism". Go dees in 2013! BTW I also backed Australia to win the test series against South Africa.