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Why are we still awaiting the proof P2J? So far the only recounts that have occurred, increased the Dems lead, did they not? It must be getting very lonely in that echo chamber; RUOK?

If there is any fraud, it would most likely not be on any scale that could influence the outcome of the election AND more importantly, it is likely that it would have occurred on both the Democrats' and the Republican's sides, in which case it would probably balance itself out... also, and I may be wrong, but didn't the early recounts that Trump demanded result in the Democrats gaining votes?

My band played this afternoon and we had a few guests sit in, that included Vince, the guitarist from the Hitmen and Psychotic Turnbuckles (for anyone old enough to remember), Chester the singer from the Turnbuckles and Archie the drummer from the Huxton Creepers. This was my first time meeting Archie, but we bonded very quickly upon learning we share a love of the Dees. https://www.facebook.com/100000758763064/posts/3671296886238901/?

Want a traveling companion? But I am looking forward to the 15 quarts as opposed to quarters.

Um, actually not true, Trump was their Person of the Year in 2016... Time Magazine has a 9 decade tradition of naming the President elect as Person (previously, Man) of the Year, regardless of political affiliation.

Do we have any Demonlanders who live out Casey way and possess a drone? ?

With all the [censored] he cops from all and sundry, I can't say that I blame him for keeping a low profile. Maybe some of his detractors could take up the baton and provide some training reports?

Yes, it's a long walk back to town ?

Once when I was visiting from Sydney I ran into DeeSpencer at Casey... not sure if that means he's a local. Also, there are a couple who often report on Casey games, so another possibility?

I defer to your obviously superior grasp of linguistics!

Elegt, I believe, is Latvian for "negativity"... I can't recall seeing much of anything positive from him.

Considering Essendon are expected to take him, and the fact that they have three (?) picks before 11, I can't see that happening. I get the feeling we may stay with the two picks rather than upgrade.

Conversely, Oliver doesn't handball enough.

I really don't understand any of this father/son stuff... so, if no one places a bid and he can only be rookie listed, in the case where he is eligible for f/s at two clubs (Melb and Freo), which club has first dibs?

Haha... unfortunately not; but I did hear some interesting stories about her luring chaps home only to have them surprised by Paul springing out of a wardrobe. True? No idea, but it makes for a great mental image.

Here’s a very abridged clip of my band doing a song by the Melbourne singer songwriter Paul Madigan. I used to enjoy traveling to the Tiger Lounge in Richmond every Saturday afternoon to watch him and his band The Humans (Ross Hannaford, Wayne Duncan and Freddie Strauks), in the latter part of the 70’s. I’m hoping this link works as I’m not sure about the privacy level my friend has on his Instagram account. Please let me know if you have trouble viewing it... https://www.instagram.com/p/CIZ38lpglWS/?igshid=14rjh926u51b5

1 + 2 = 3... I suggest you give up on the numerology BBP.

Assuming David is a paid up member, perhaps he feels that he also "owns" a share in the players? I can understand then why he might feel so disgruntled, as the cost of that membership equates to roughly one less cup of coffee per week!

I read, and even quoted, what you said... other than my throw away line regarding your own employment/income, I’d love you to quote anything I said that actually did misrepresent you.

Love your sense of humour P2J!!

The other day you were banging on about "loyalty to the club", yet here you are saying that a player is only committed to a club 100% while they are under contract. As Frawley was not, as you stated, under contract at Melbourne, and had retired from Hawthorn (ergo, not under contract), he is free to do whatever he pleases without any consideration of club loyalty. I doubt very much that Frawley approached St Kilda, offering his services. It is far more likely that St Kilda offered him a contract based on the fact that he was a defender who still, in their opinion, had something to offer... plus they probably saw some good marketing value in the Frawley connection to the club. Frawley would have given it his consideration before accepting and was probably encouraged to say the things he did to St Kilda supporters, again, as a marketing exercise (after all, if contracted, he is the club's property, is he not?). I certainly hope that you were/are a volunteer worker and that you never changed jobs, as taking a position for money is, in your opinion, BS!

That’s debatable... https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/11/06/trump-promised-to-end-americas-wars-biden-might-actually-do-it/

Yes, of course you're entitled to your own opinion, no one is denying that. However, for AFL footballers these days, football IS a day job and as such they have the right to seek better conditions, better wages, and better opportunities for their advancement elsewhere, as soon as their contract has run its term. Gone are the days of footballers who held day jobs and played as part of a team on the weekends with a couple of evening practices a week. These days AFL is a business, a very big business, and loyalty is a rarity. Clubs move out players regardless of whether they have a contract or not just so they can free up salary cap space in order to attract the big names with big dollars and to attract big name sponsors with equally big cheque books - it's a two way street (give loyalty to get loyalty). If you want to apportion the blame, then I suggest you first look at the clubs who are offering the big money... as I have said in previous posts, the players are, rightfully, looking to secure their own (and their family's) futures and it is the clubs that are enabling that by making offers they can't refuse. Their life as footballers with an opportunity to use their talents to make a good living is very limited unless they are one of the handful that have what it takes to move into the media post footy.

Obviously you don't believe that a player should have more important responsibilities in his life beyond the team... how dare he accept a position doing what he loves (playing footy) while at the same time putting his future in a much more secure position! I sure hope that you never accepted a pay rise, or left one company to work for another that was offering better remuneration, conditions and a real shot at success; I'd hate to think you were a hypocrite.

I would think it was for a bit of both... money, as I stated in my previous post, who wouldn't jump at the opportunity to make their future a little more secure financially (it's nothing to do with greed), but I would also think that as players like Frawley have known little outside of football for the best part of 15 years, it must be very hard to turn away from a sport they obviously love playing with a passion.