P-man

Our forward pressure in this game has been deplorable.

How do you not kick that?

T Mac again. Useless. Absolutely [censored] useless.

Trenners on Open Mike will be worth a watch.

I hate Derwayne but “Fritsch magnet”. Gotta pay that.

T Mac doing T Mac things. Stop picking him. He’s done.

Love the big Preusster but when he’s your best player for the term it’s not a great sign.

Looks pretty swirly out there. Kicking across the ground is risky.

Dogs are on big time today.

Such a soft call against Sparrow. Ridiculous.

Hibbo no.

Hitouts 7-0

God T Mac is so [censored] slow.

I like how insanely easy that first goal was.

I’ve explained how that is what you were doing. Or at least, that seemed to very much be the message. Moving on.

Your opening contribution amounted to saying that positive responses are all due to romanticism around it being Jesse Hogan. The implication being that anyone in favour of the idea is not looking at it logically. It doesn’t get much more dismissive than that. I’d be surprised if they traded him back but that doesn’t mean it couldn’t happen.

Not to mention I’m yet to hear anyone from the club give any inkling of sour grapes. Quite the opposite. There is little to suggest he wouldn’t get a warm welcome home. Should the club decide to trade for him.

Again, I’m not just talking about supporter romanticism. For Hogan it will be familiar surrounds in terms of players, coaching staff and admin. He knows Goodwin’s methodology. That places the club in a unique position. As mentioned it would largely be about getting him into the right mental place and all those things provide him with a leg up to return to his best football. That’s parking everything else involved in terms of sentiment. To say it’s irrelevant just isn’t accurate. Yes, he hasn’t produced anything at Freo. Hence why it’s a gamble and you’d only want to acquire him cheaply. For me, it’s a gamble worth taking. Hogan at CHF in this team is an attractive prospect. You dont see it that way. All good. Just try not to dismiss those who disagree with you as not thinking straight.

Those two can co-exist. It’s about what he can produce on the field in isolation, as well as what returning to Melbourne specifically can do for him, the club and the supporters.

I don’t see much “pining”. It’s about an openness to the idea. It’s actually not just about the romanticism and it’s fairly arrogant to dismiss it as such. Also, it’s just wrong to think that him being a Melbourne player is irrelevant. It’s relevant on several fronts. Especially with the player in question.

That’s all well and good but it ignores what he did prior to going to Freo. This isn’t just about the romanticism attached to it. We know he can play. He’s been at Freo for five minutes in the scheme of things.

I have memories of Roos saying he could be an A grade defender. But in saying that he was never exactly known for his defending ability. It’s hard to picture it.

It’s a concern and it would be buyer beware. But we know with Hoges that 95% of the battle is mental. He’s not a happy man up there and it’s showing. The lure of family and friends clearly hasn’t translated the way he may have hoped. He’d be in familiar surrounds at the club where he knows he has produced his best football. Id be shocked to see it happen but acquiring Bennell was a shock and very unMelbourne-like so you never know.

I’d have him back. Talent like that doesn’t disappear.

Would be a dramatic turnaround for Bruce to cause us any issues. Has been beyond rubbish this year.