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So even in retrospect you think it was the right decision? In the games he played this year he more than proved he was capable of competing at AFL level. Our team is bereft of senior leaders and we denied a club captain and one of its great servants an extra year. It was a [censored] up, and it still irks me.

I don't see how that impacts on judgement of the decision tbh. What was he to do when he felt he had another year in him? Sit on his hands out of respect to the club that shafted him?

The Junior decision was categorically wrong.

Well done to Watson who had a great year, but hard to overlook the fact that alot of the guys who could've taken votes off him fell victim to the Weapon's regime. Would've loved to see Sam Mitchell take it out. Polls second again. Not good enough for AA selectors though. Laughable.

Fantastic effort. Pretty damning that the next highest vote getter was Watts and co on 3.

They can get the job done OD. Hawks have Schoenmakers - that's a 3 goal head start to the Swans already.

There are teams I hate alot more than Hawthorn - Essendon, Pies, West Coast, North etc, but definitely will be backing in the Swans this weekend.

Yep, thanks Harry.

They better not lose it from here..

So jealous. I'd kill to have that kind of Dee support network..

I have a mate who had the little Demon guernsey ready to go when his son was born. Conversely I've heard stories of parents who haven't pushed their kids due to stories of other kids being bullied etc. Personally I think it's our duty to instill it in the next generations any way possible, cause frankly we need all the help we can get. I would imagine that right now it's a hard sell to an 8-12 year old. Perhaps in a few years time, not so much. Just dangle the carrot of better days around the corner. Make them a poor sap like the rest of us.

Jose, where ya been? I was getting so worried... stuie - My comment was intended as tongue in cheek. His love of the big dollar is somewhat of a running joke on Gruen. His knowledge would be invaluable and I don't doubt his passion or motives with respect to the club.

And the season before that.. Great video though. Conveyed the emotion really well. Geeze I feel for Chippa. If anyone on our list deserves to see some success it's him.

If his appearances on Gruen Transfer are anything to go by, all the passion in the world wouldn't mean he'd provide that expertise for free.

So the story that is going to "blow the footy world apart", the story Ed and his team have been "working on for a while", is Crosisca confessing he was a drug addict. An ex-player was on recreational drugs. Footy will never be the same.... Oh wait, it's completely unchanged.

Agreed. It seems as if they have taken to its extreme this concept of selecting players with consideration to how they actually perform as a team, whereby combinations are being given weight at the expense of, you know, who was the BEST in that position over the season? That old chestnut. Combinations should be a distant secondary consideration to who was the best performed player. For the record I think NicNat would've been AA eventually over his career, and have stated so on here before, but selection at this stage has cheapened the whole process. For someone who has played less than 50% in the ruck to be first choice, and then to name Cox in the forward pocket just cements what a mockery it has become. They need to get rid of KB and Darcy immediately, and probably Healy as well. His crush on NicNat is frankly weird. I also have little faith in Jakovich's objectivity. Selecting Glass as captain has his fingerprints all over it.

Would love to see that as his omission was pathetic, but I wouldn't be surprised if the selection panel get a whisper on who wins the charlie to avoid any embarrassment.

I'm still chuckling over NicNat as first ruck. Absolute pisser.

You'll be the most popular person in the office. Absolutely girt with friends.

The only thing Swan is worthy of winning this year is fattest seagull.

Is that right, "wackojacko"?

Apparently only poets can tell that the two lines are unrelated... And how on earth is it disrespectful to sing along with it? This thread is bizarre.

The rare occasions when it is sung by tens of thousands of voices in unison (read major Socceroos or Wallabies fixtures), it is a stirring anthem. I have no major issue with playing it for finals. Australia's game, Australia's anthem. Makes sense. If it offends you that much, go make a cup of coffee. Or concrete.

Ben - are you saying you've NEVER had a Demon as a favourite player or just not right now? Surely the Ox met your criteria.

If the first half of his season was anything like the second half he would've been a shoe-in. Watson is a strong chance but I would prefer to see Mitchell get it. He deserves the recognition. Cotchin will one eventually.