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Eddie knows he was selected to play in 3 grand finals for Collingwood

well aren't you just a gold-hearted magnanimous saint, defender of all those who carp on our great club excuse me while I vomit

wtf big sook must have been getting stuck into some nachos sitting on his a55 all year collecting our paychecks hate that man so much

Let's not rewrite history. 13th and 14th place in our last two Blueys.. not all that great in our rabble and as one of the more mature players the moment in my signature was a pearler though!

in dd's defence, he must mean 'step up to elite/a-grade/superstar whatever level you want to call it' in which case it is a fair point

I can't work you out RPFC. I asked what bit you disagreed with. Very very very simple question. would every club have taken Morton (for example) at pick 4? Yes or no is there some degree of 'luck' involved as to whether a kid dominates the big league the same way he did as a junior? Yes or No is there a component of his success involved that hinges on the coaches, facilities, culture etc that he is exposed to? Yes or no if you have answered yes three times then we are in agreement now - the big question - how can anybody answer yes to the above three questions and still maintain that we simply 'made a mistake' in picking him?

Good move No doubt whatsoever it is Roosy's doing

Condolences mate

but obviously these people dont exist - or at least they are never the ones in the position to make the call, which is further proof that the notion is basically impossible!

I won't, but the folks I am complaining about will. Just refer to the posters who mention Ollie Wines every single time they read the name Toumpas

you've misinterpreted - I was in no way undermining EQ. I was pointing out the fact that she is able to nail it every year demonstrates that it is very clear to everybody in the inner circle of the drafting community that there is a set hierarchy of prospects, which means it is basically impossible to claim that any pick in the first 5-10 was a mistake unless somebody goes for a big smoky that didn't work. I can't think of anybody ever doing that in the first 5-10 BTW. Plenty didn't work out but they were all expected to be picked there. Even Richard Tambling.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Parker went at pick 40 and Sloane at 44! How can anybody rationalise that our club made a blunder there, obviously the prospect that they were on draft day held no bearing to the players they would ultimately become and ZERO clubs were able to see through that!

That's a joke right? As in you are winding me up by being as pedantic as possible in reply to a post that complained of pedantry? Cameron/BP/whoever has no bearing on the point I was making I am talking about the top5 region which is far more self-selecting than late-first-round and beyond. Watts, Morton, Scully, Trengove, Toumpas, McLean and Sylvia. Nothing wrong with those choices. ain any case, 2 examples from a decade is hardly what you'd call a pattern basically my point is that if in 5 years AB+CP aren't superstars we will have people claiming the current staff were a bunch of muppets who stuffed up the draft and that will be demonstrably silly

If you don't appreciate mid-90s Kidman I'm afraid you might be a little 'light in the loafers' :D exceptional specimen

I've already told you lot that Olivia has had her time. Notice the change though.

Probably because Scully seems like the type of bloke that has no mates

I could see them both getting the microphone right after the siren after being BOG in a win

your pedantry is tiresome every recruiter in the country would have picked Morton. Therefore, BP was in no way carp at his job. It's very simple. Whether other clubs would have turned Morton into a better player than we did can never be known - but the fact we had the worst environment for development imaginable is indisputable. Which part of this do you disagree with specifically? Or are you just disagreeing for fun?

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-16/gws-defender-frost-becomes-a-demon oh you're right! wow that really is a HUGE cost then isn't it? We might one day be worshipping at the altar of the Richmond medical crew!

and further evidence that the draft generally picks itself up the top end.. which is why people who claim 'Prendergast picked the wrong blokes' are off the mark

so when is the list finalised?

how do you figure that?

good post add to it the fact that we have a total of FOUR decent midfielders that pick themselves in the side, AB+CP do not have to beat much in order to get plenty of game time in 2015

I would have done it then and would give Brayshaw and Petracca to Adelaide now for Dangerfield (or J.Kennedy from Sydney) .. the point is moot though, it seems the deal was 3+12+23.. so Brayshaw+Trengove+Frost