Little Goffy

I expect by then we'll be widely seen as the custodians of the deeper soul of football, using our extreme ability to play a graceful and tough style and using our overwhelming footy-political influence to prevent idiot rule changes and to drive support for the lower tier competitions. Hmm, I guess that's pretty arrogant too, but at least we wont be spoiling it for others, because they'll feel good just knowing they've put up a good showing against the greatest team of all time. And we'll still clap their good play, because that's the proper way, ol' chap.

I'm glad it wasn't just me who sat near some absolute smug git swans. That said, I was in Sydney. The combination of cluelessness and entitelment is particularly galling.

Yeah, bugger it, we're no good, trade veryone with currency, time for a rebuild.

50/50 chance of being there for the day we secure a finals spot. I'd go if I had the option. Enjoy!

Well, now it is all very simple. Win at least one game of the remainign two, we play finals, guaranteed. Lose both, we miss finals, guaranteed. If it is any comfort, I've been running the squiggle auto-tip over and over and so far none of the results have shown us dropping both games... on balance of probability, of course. The simulator doesn't account for Melbourne being Melbourne, though. I had really hoped we wouldn't have to think about rushing players back in, but right now it is every possible player 'in', which specifically means Melksham and Hibberd who between them can transform our half-forward and half-back lines. One win. Just one win.

It was Nibbler's turn at the bathwater, with the extra praise and publicity recently. He'll learn from it. He'd bloody better.

Ok, I'm just going to forget all about wanting certainties and slots and start hoping for whatever the most EPIC results would be. Obviously that still means Melbourne beating Sydney, because it makes both our remaining games EPIC clashes in the top 4. Brisbane still should do football a favour and beat Collingwood, so the Magpies can cr4p their pants for a couple more weeks. And I think what this round really needs is a draw. Adelaide v Giants should do the trick. Keeps Adelaide mathematically in the race (as one of their wins was needed just to get over their gobshite percentage) and actually just close to nothing to help the Giants, since they already have a draw and their percentage is below every other team competing for top 4. And for a laugh, right at this moment the Lions are ahead of the Magpies, and the Crows-Giants are clearly set on a wild ride to a draw.

Plus some additional injuries to key players. You'd have to say they are cooked now. Not a moment I'd want to be a Port supporter. In a sympathetic way, not in the general "I wouldn't want to be a Port supporter" sense.

Yeah, but all 14 will be just junk-time goals. Even the one he kicked in the second minute...

I was worried enough to test that in the ladder predictor. If Geelong lose today even by a point, they would need to pick up 200+ points margin on us in the final two rounds to make the difference. As in, we lose both our games by ten goals and they win both their games by ten goals. If Geelong lose today, they are still credible for slipping into the 8 but they are no chance of chasing us down (if we beat Sydney).

Processing out loud, just trying to work out best results. From a safety-first perspective on the udnerstanding that we beat Sydney. Games of interest to us are - North v Foosctray. North only have the 11 wins. Any loss makes it impossible for them to pass us. So if they lose to the Bulldogs on Sunday they cease to be a threat. This also means that only one more team needs to be eliminated from the possibility of passing us, for us to be secure in the 8. Hawthorn vs Geelong Geelong are currently on 11 wins. And while their percentage is a bit better than North's, realistically* any loss would prevent them getting to the 14 wins they'd need to pass us. The asterix is a note acknowledging MFCSS. Hawks play Sydney in rnd23. Thus, after this round, only one of Hawks/Swans can get both wins in the remaining two rounds. So if Geelong lose, they stop being a threat to us, and if Hawthorn lose then only one of Sydney/Hawks can pass us. Ergo, therefore, y'know what... if we beat Sydney, it doesn't really matter who wins out of Geelong/Hawthorn because one of the three (Sydney/Hawks/Geelong) won't be able to pass us, which means our lowest credible* result is 8th. If you are really anxious, then probably the 'best' result is for Hawthorn to smack Geelong and take a slice off their percentage. Even as it is, if Geelong lose to the Hawks by, say, a kick after the siren, then they would still need to be pick up about 150+ points of margin on us in each of the final two rounds. Collingwood vs Brisbane and Port vs West Coast. Collingwood play Port in rnd 22. So again, only one of these two can get a full board in the last two rounds. If both lose this round, then one additional team gets added to the 'no threat' category. And for the optimist's perspective, again on the understanding we beat Sydney - Giants vs Crows If the Giants manage to fluff this game, then in rnd 23 that 14th win we'd be playing for would guarantee finishing ahead of all of North, Geelong, Sydney, GWS, and one of Port/Collingwood. Hawks v Geelong For the optimists a Geelong victory is the preference as this would peg Hawthorn a game and % behind us, meaning that only one more win is necessary to guarantee finishing ahead of them. Which in turn means that the rnd 23 game against the Giants would be playing for a certain top-4 finish. Collingwood vs Brisbane and Port vs West Coast. Much the same situation for the optimists as the pessimists. However, if you are feeling really, really optimistic (that we'll win both the final rounds) then you want West Coast to drop this game because that opens up the possibility of a top-2 finish. So there it is. Very simple for the pessimists. A bit more complicated if your heart is still reaching out for top 4 or even the suddenly possible top 2! I'll be happy for the Hawks to just whack Geelong to put everyone here in a good mood.

Trouble is, not sure Vince really is a solution for that problem. Meanwhile, with Lever, Hibberd, and now Smith all missing from our backline, Vince has been dropped. Compared to himself in 2017, Vince's 2018 stats are down in basically every category, most notably a pretty serious drop from 21 disposal a game to just 16. I hate letting players go and I am still stung by the memories of the botched purged of veteran players under Schwab's agenda, but I've drifted to the side of a respectful delisting/retirement for Vince. With full respect to him - he gave us a lot more than I expected and was without doubt a part of turning this club around.

'Blockbuster' seems to now just be the socially acceptable way of saying 'we want to guarantee as many games as possible against teams in the same state while also trying to give our fixture-f-ing desires priority status so other teams have to cop the 6-day turnaround'.

Only trouble is they may be getting Rohan back, which makes their forward line that little bit more complex. But the case is pretty clearly there for having an extra in defence to at least break even and mop up the mess. In what is likely to be a grinding game the last thing we want is for too many easy goals to slip through against us.

Uh oh, we've been talked up, it's a big high profile game being broadcast everywhere, and there's a lot to gain. I must not panic. I must not panic. I must not panic. By the way, if all the right results happen this round, we can actually be two games and 15% points ahead of 9th (Geelong), with obviously only two rounds to go. For once we'd be on the good side of the 'only really a mathematical possibility' saying. In fact, in a show of how mad this season is, all but the Richmond - Gold Coast and the Carlton - Fremantle games matter to our final position. Best Case - The right results in seven games, and we are not just in the 8 at the end of the season, but secure in at least 7th with any chasers needing to win all remaining possible games and gain at least 15 percentage points, just to catch us even if we lose both remaining games. We would also only need one more win, specifically against GWS in the final round, to guarante a top-4 finish. Worst Case - We finish the round as one of four teams on 12 wins, two inside the 8 and two outside, with another two teams on 11 wins. And we'd have by far the toughest draw of the four teams on 12. Of course, we'd also still only be one win out of the top 4. I've been annoying people for weeks saying over and over each week that 'this is the most important game for the Demons in almost 12 years', but, well, this is the most important game for the Demons in almost 12 years.

Really impressive to be using the 'power' of the 'G in this way. Even going on after a game for a bit of silly kick-to-kick makes you feel like the proverbial whole world could be watching, so I must really be something special to actually be out there for a good reason. From the outside, it seems like it has become almost a pilgrimage for many, to share a moment of solidariy and visibility over what I'm told can be a very isolating and lonely experience. Respect to the club, but most of all, thoughts with everyone experiencing cancer, both medically and socially.

Unhappy North. Build a 'war chest' and then the only 'war' they get invited to is just for a quality, but definitely not star, player. And paying him excessively will add inflation pressure to the salary expectations of everyone else on the team or potentially coming in future. Grabbing Polec with an over-market bid after making multiple highly publicised bids for genuine 'big fish' is almost emblematic of North's overall situation. Not quite failing, but you'd hardly call it triumphant.

Some individual statscourtesy of afltables.com Clayton Oliver is on target to top our 'most in a season' for posessions and contested posessions and may also sneak to top for most tackles... surpassing... Clayton Oliver! Also needs 24 more clearances in 3 games to scratch Brent Moloney off the top. Max Gawn also on target to pass himself for most hitouts in a season. Oscar McDonald needs 31 more 1%ers to make top 5, and in the process make our entire top-5 either himself or Tom. Four players this season are in our top-20 all-time for goal assists in a season; Neal-Bullen, Petracca, Oliver, and Melksham, who is averaging a staggering 1.5 a game. And if you want to know about consistency, well, he hasn't had more than 2 in a game.

Awkward timing to say that when we are about to play Gold Coast in a must-win game late in the season! Having said that, I think you're quite right, and while I've never hated Watts it became obvious the moment I started thinking about our forward line without him. He just doesn't quite... do... anything in particular.

I wonder what the lowest ever average margin for a round of VFL/AFL football is? Just a curiousity, I mean, I can't see this round reaching for the record after we crush the Suns by 150+ St Kilda - Bulldogs and Collingwood - Sydney both have potential to be close too. All the apparent mismatches have been left for sunday.

Gee, football is in terible condition. Starting to think the bruhaha about 'spectacle of the game' and 'need to change what is happening on the ground' was just a smokescreen to cover the fact that all the real problems in the game at the moment have their source either at HQ or the Broadcasters. Meanwhile, that's three games in a row with see-saw surges of scoring and decided by less than a goal. I would guess that the actual fans are feeling pretty 'engaged with the content' at this point.

Over time, I've just gone completely off Bugg. Used to enjoy his peskiness and ability to pop up unexpectedly, but he has been passed by others in every role he might play. Now if I think of Bugg I think of a basically adequate player who will make some stupid mistake that costs us a final one day.

On current form, AFL HQ will come up with a 'compromise' where the women's season is a full 9 rounds, but they play the finals at the start when there is TV space available Actually kind of along those lines in a way, perhaps every AFL club to field a properly resourced women's team which plays through a normal season, absorbing the existing VFL/SANFL women's teams, and the 'pre-season' competition becomes a kind of champions league with, for example, the best six teams of the previous season playing five rounds and then a final. Given that success in AFLW is at the moment hugely driven by the amount of resources put in, expecting clubs to really commit through a full normal season, in order to get their place in the spotlight for the women's champion's league, makes sense. It would also ensure that the high profile games are always of the highest available standard.

I know it is common for people to react to posts without reading the full link, but it seems this time the actual original poster starting the thread didn't read the article either. New record?

Not many big (15 goal-ish) margins this season - Rnd 4 - Richmond over Brisbane by 93 and North over Carlton by 86. Rn 9 - Melbourne over Carlton by 109 points Rnd 10 - Melbourne over Adelaide by 91 points It would be good to clock up a third win on that scale, and really reinforce the idea that we can score rapidly and ruthlessly. I think it would freshen our players a bit, and also make a few opponents a bit more nervous, maybe a bit more reactive, which would work in our favour. Other than a win though, I think the best single thing that could come out of this is Hogan playing himself back into form. Given their depleted set of defenders, a quick back of 12 (11 from clean marks and one from a dropped mark that he crumbs himself late in the final quarter) would really help his confidence.