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Watts forward? KEEP HIM THERE! He's less of a liability.

The problem is that people talk him up, and then his contribution is well below the value dictated by the passion of those that approve of him. He is awful. He is to Melbourne what Ottens was to Richmond. We have this discussion every year. He is very average.

The flood gates have creaked open.

Has Watts ever delivered the ball inside 50 from a center clearance? Every time he gets a handball from a clearance he looks backwards for anoher handball. He should have gone forward there. He looked sideways and it cost us a goal.. His lethargy in disposing the ball is very obvious. Why can't many of you see it?

Watts and Barry are costing us goals. Put them forward!

The 15-metre rule is jibbed. That was at least 20 metres.

Why isn't Dunn on Roughead?

Puts Watts in the goal square! He's just no good around the game if we can't get the space and win the stoppages. Play him out of the bloody square! We have no targets going forwards!

I imagine the Dogs will get up by 5-6 goals. But it's no certainty.

Zero chance. That said, I've got $50 at $11 for the Melbourne win. I'm a delusional [censored].

It's arrogant, and kind of mean, but the guy's not wrong: this club is very lucky to have survived such a downright awful period. Undoubtedly one of the worst teams of all time. Even Carlton, after "winning" three wooden spoons in the 00s, was able to come back in season 8 to make the finals. They were able to turn their back on a losing, poor culture.

I think also it's important to look at who won't be at the club by the end of 2016: Frawley McKenzie Clisby Blease Strauss Riley Nicholson Evans Tapscott Barry Gawn Spencer Bail M. Jones Terlich Fitzpatrick Included in that list is our entire ruck stock, which is quite damning. Roos has his worked cut out for him. 16 out of 40 players gone by 2016, not factoring in retirement of Cross next year, and probably Jamar in '16. The club absolutely has to nail drafting and trading this year and next otherwise it'll be in the exact same position it is in now for another 5-6 years. EDIT: And Watts should be traded. We keep having this discussion and I think he still has trade value that can bring the club someone that is more suited to the type of style Roos wants to play.

Jimmy did many a great thing for the club but he was still part of the problem unfortunately. The boys club came back in and ruined this club.

Came to the club knowing Clark was there, with Hogan in the shadows. Turns out he's our only forward at least for the rest of the season. Teams just need to stop him and they've stopped our forward line. Imagine if we still had Clark and Jurrah? We'd be a 6-7 win better team. Easily. Even with the current crop of spuds missing from 5 meters out.

That was just lazy Buddy. He has brain farts like that. On one end we have Buddy: immensely talented, sometimes lazy. On the other, McKenzie: undoubtedly committed, but so bad and lacking in skill that it doesn't matter.

Watts, Vince, Frawley all share that. Watts is a downhill skier. He needs his teammates to win him the ball so he can drive it forward. He won't win ball himself. He's a guy that needs to be in a good team.

"Melbournised" makes it seem half-okay. He's being "Melbourned". I prefer that word. Bernie Vince is now officially "Melbourned". Did he butcher the ball like that at Adelaide? One of our worst offenders in the second-half of the year.

A week ago I thought I'd be livid. After yesterday I am just over it. It doesn't matter if they finish last. Yesterday was breaking point for me. I'm done for the year.

Frawley - Gawn Tapscott - Gawn Blease - Gawn Strauss - Gawn Bail - Gawn Byrnes - Gawn Terlich - Gawn Nicholson - Gawn Clark - Gawn I suspect one contracted player will be traded, at least. Watts should be traded to up draft position, and then pass on those draft picks + top 10 pick for an experienced, committed player. Or maybe even one of Patton or Cameron. No point sticking with Watts anymore. Guys like Watts, Dunn, Frawley, Grimes, Garland, they are unfortunately, losers and will never be at the forefront of a successful Melbourne team. They define this era and ultimately, they must be slowly chopped and moved on. Yes, the likes of Dunn are one of our best, but we need game winners, not passengers. Boy oh boy, year on year we have the same discussion: the entire list needs to be turned over!

1. Melbourne was awful 2. Etihad is awful 3. Melbourne is awful

So many players going through the motions today. Roos comments sum it up perfectly: the players wait to lose. The likes of Jones, Watts and Vince continue to disappointment me. Jones works his butt off but he simply isn't the kind of guy we need to lead us to victory. We just need that one X-factor that has the drive and will to push everyone around them to win. Tyson looks to be the only player with this quality. Maybe Viney. But they've played bloody 20-30 games each! Our biggest problem is not guys like McKenzie. It's that our leaders are no-shows when we need them, and they're the ones making the worst errors at the worst times.

Saints will run over the Suns. Suns seem spooked. Tomorrow is big. I'll be devastated if we fall to last.

Can't say I'm glad to see a young kid with well-known knee issues having to go under the knife again at 23. For as much as I hate the bloke for leaving, I can't take pleasure in seeing someone go down like this.

Roos and Thompson has a coaching duo is enough to make ANY football fan salivate. Unfortunately, I can't see it happening. IMO this saga has had its toll on Thompson, and I doubt he'll coach again in the near future. He's damaged goods.

Of course not. Probably closer to 12,000,000%.