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Wasn't trying to be a smart alec about:) They are difficult to deal with and one thing I have learned is it ain't over until it's over. When it's signed you can relax because up until that point anything goes. But there is no doubt the CHinese companies are looking at this market for sponsorship.

Hisense arena?? A multi million dollar 6 yr deal.... Jan 24: China Southern Airlines has signed on as the sponsor for the Sydney Festival for the next three years and believes Australia is on the cusp of a travel boom that will see one million Chinese visiting Australia by 2020.

We lost Wellman with one year of his contract left. Clubs also ditch coaches at will so they can hardly be upset if ithappens the other way..

Only if they want to use them this year.

Agree Stevie J but Milne nowhere near elite IMO

That bit ain't right. It is well known that Rivers one-on-one is vulnerable. Heard ratten talk - he expected JR to play on Waite and Rattens instructions were to take him back to the goal square and have everybody clear out. he has great strengths but that isn't one of them.

Why don't Carlsum ever get mentioned in tanking debate?? 3 wooden spoons in a row. Losing the last 11 games to get C Judd (who had todl them he was leaving West Coke) as well as the infamous Kruezer Cup. Teams for years have sent players off to surgery, tried them in differnt positions etc. DB did not tell the players to lose.

Really??? They didn't learn a game plan under DB. At least they didn't play like they knew what a game plan was. Finer points??? I would say it has ben de-constructed and is being put together again. The difference being that under DB they didn't pick up a ball until around February (gotta work on building their bodies up!). Neeld has been doing game simulations since very early on. Well need it.

Leaders lead. We have two outstanding young leaders and they will lead. Thats why they were chosen That doesn't stop BM or Rivers, Davey or Green being an on-field leader though. It would still be expected of them.

You are totally missing the point. It seems clear from what I read that the players had been whining for some time about C Schwab interfering in the footy department. Don didn't bring anything on. He was tryingto find out why the players were 'up in arms'. The phrase 'lunatics running the asylum' comes to mind...

I think the club's actions would disagree with your view strongly. You don't pick leaders to play at Casey FFS.

"So much of the footy" as you say is simply not supported by the facts. Which is why it gets people so riled. Here they are for you: http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pc-melbourne-demons--cale-morton There is no column for hard ball gets but there doesn't need to be. He plays a free player largely so gets 'cheap' possessions in the backline. I can't see the elite skills that posters talk of here. I agree with Dandeeman that his development has not been helped by getting games without merit. People will say the same of Jack Watts but I don't buy that - he has shown so much more commitment to a contest as well as elite skills. It's just my opinion and I'll watch and hope that I am wrong.

When exactly has he been on? And BTW he has been a member of the starting 18 consistently.

Took Leon Davis about 8 yrs before he displayed elite skills consistently. JB has all the tricks. Could be that player for us. Jst hope it doesn't take 8 yrs....

Clearly not, The club rates him a lot more highly than people here. Check the B& F results.

Geez Morton's skinny....

Geez at least he didn't say ruthless.....

That is VERY interesting to me. Says that CS was meddling in DB's patch and has been told not to interfere with the footy dept. His conduit is Craig. Smart. probably explains the footy players being upset last year about the interference in the footy department by one CS. Total speculation on my part but that's my take.

I'll give you a clue. One starts with M and ends with N and it has 6 letters.

Started behind the 8 ball in 2 seasons - what you think last years finger injury set him back????? Good grief. Sadly Cale just hasn't got it. His efforts are sometimes laughable. That is what riles people up the most. And like the other members of his footballing family they seem to coast. Look at what has happened to them. Still he gets another chance this year. I hope he realises its his last one.

Gysberts has a body to play inside mid? Must have put on a bit over the break! Cale, sadly I agree with you. Viney. A question. Isn't it in our best interest for him not to dominate anything this year?? All we can do is raise the draft pick that others will offer for him. If he dominates and Hawthorn offers, say their first pick - we are then obliged to use our first pick are we not? There is no chance we will not take him so clubs have got nothing to lose by offering a high pick. Could someone pls clarify??

I'd suggest respectfully you have never been involved a sponsorship deal. And while your first sentence is correct, the second is just not how it works. They want maximum bang early on. Confirmation they have made the right decision, immediate impact etc. In 3 yrs time everyone will have forgotten the launch but keep in mind the discussions around this would have been going on for a long time internally and maximum exposure early would be a key reason for timing.

I'll make the point here for those that have forgotten, DB was out of contract at the end of 2011. The club was weighing up whether he should be given an extension or not. After some of our insipid efforts throughout the year the Board and supporters were agitating for change. As you would expect when we had not shown any improvement. 186 meant things were spiralling out of control and a circuit breaker was needed. DB was likely dead man walking by this stage. And the perceived fact the players were whinging about the footy department meant that they rightly needed to be told to pull their heads in. In particular our senior players who showed a disgraceful lack of leadership throughout the year (Beemer excepted). That (IMO) was deemed more important than the rising angst against CS. What has happened to our club has been terrible but where we sit now I am glad it happened and we are where we are. We are in a better place although time will tell of course. Or as someone wise once put it: It is always the darkest hour before the dawn - so if you are going to steal your neighbours newspaper, just before the dawn is a really good time to do it.

How is that misleading? I would have thought it fact since Darling went at Pick 26.

I don't reckon you can credibly say that either!