jnrmac

It was crap the first time it won't get any better on a second reading

Really? I have seen and heard most excuses but you have created a new low. You should expect more given we have been butchering the ball for a decade. Goodwin's game plan don't work. The shiny new coaching panel have a lot of work to do.

Lost count of the times we turned the ball over into our fwd line. Same ol crapola. They have learned nothing

I think you can sign up for a 14 day Kayo trial or $10 for 2 weeks. Quite reasonable really..

HMM they lost Rd 1 in 2015, 2018 AND 2019

There will still be a last 2 minutes.....

Or in the case of a Preliminary final 10 goals...

Hopefully no soft tissue injuries........... I'll see myself out...

Congratulations for the most stupid post on DLand.

You miss the point entirely. Let me make it simple for you by giving you an analogy. In a boxing match when players are tired it becomes a test of wills and ability to withstand what your opponent can throw at you. Its very often not pretty but enthralling and ultimately why people watch boxing. I think you are the one that is strugling to understand simple concepts.

I like this idea.

Says you. The end of a game when everyone is out on their feet can be frantic and amongst the best recollections of a games' appeal. I think it is indisputable that when players are 'fatigued' and running on willpower, G&D etc is when you see the real warriors stand out. It's not just as you say related to 'skill errors' or ''attractiveness" Do you work at Channel 7? Personally I don't care how a game looks. I grew up with one on one contests and looked forward to seeing a Jakovich vs Carey battle. A rare thing these days.

What a pleasant change to have a constructive conversation about 2 up and coming young talls..... Give yourselves a pat on the back..

You may be right. My recollection was that he was pushing the changes early on but by the end of his tenure was trying to remove a number of the changes - particularly the interchange free for all.

He wanted to leave.

I have gone from being optimistic on Weid to being slightly pessimistic. Have seen some glimpses but one area of real concern for me is his inability to regularly hold marks. Fix that and he has the potential to become a good player but I'm not sure you can fix such a problem that easily.

Nathan Buckley when leaving Brisbane Bears "I'm going to Collingwood because I want to win a flag"

All these problems started when the interchange numbers went through the roof. Players could run all day. Kevin Bartlett and Channel 7 effected a raft of rule changes over a 10yr period to speed up the game create more breaks for TV ads etc. That plan has morphed into the scrum we have today The solution is staring them in the face

1. Belief: in themselves and the game plan 2. Luck with injuries That's it

I like these Oppo Watch threads. Good if we can keep them going....

Kent? Seriously? He's not missed

Not my comparison. It was Goodwin's I just pointed out he was wrong.

I have one of those too....

Simon clearly doesn't know his history. University and St Kilda have had much worse periods.

I think that may be part of the issue - I don't think Jack is a spiritual leader. He's more a lead by example kind of guy. There were some rumblings about two camps with Jones and Viney and whether or not that is true, players follow guys who are natural leaders not just leaders in name. I recall when Sam Mitchell was Captain but it was clear that Hodge was the spiritual leader. I see Gawn as the guy on field that others follow. I think May and Lever could be too if they can put a body of games together...