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I could believe it. We have seen it all year. Dumb lazy footballers who look totally lost It's a coaching and leadership issue full stop.

No one covers grass better than we do. It's clearly an explicit instruction not to get too close to your man. F****** madness how our players think they can close down the 'space' when time and time again Oppo players chip it to each other.

At this point, on field leadership is second on the list to the coaching panel of things that need rectifying

Ha ha that's gold. Write shiite and then castigate people who respond saying 'I clearly meant something else'. Maybe take some writing lessons.

Just like when Schwab and Connolly supposedly conspired not to play players who were on game incentives in order to save money.....players not happy...

Yze has been at Hawthorn since the 2014 season. 6 yrs under the best coach of the last 50 years. He'd be a great get.

Did he eat his scarf in frustration?

I'm not a mind reader. Say what you mean. What you said was wrong.

A club with decent leaders would never have this happen. That the players felt they had to go to the PA is a complete indictment on Goodwin and our leadership group.. We are still feeling the effects because we have no leadership other than Gawn and Goodwin and his coaching staff are clueless how to fix our 'game plan'. Headless chooks the lot of them

You have nailed it. Amazing some can't see this. The coaching department have completely lost the players. They have no idea how to fix it. Yeah, keep blaming injuries. FMD

Hardly. Has barely got near the ball or his player.

This is the real danger of the shiitefest we have witnessed this year. Supporters not showing up, not buying memberships, sponsors bailing, poor TV fixtures, supporters disengaging emotionally from what is essentially an emotional investment. A few of the nufs will say 'good riddance' but we can't afford to lose a single supporter and in particualr younger supporters. This club has an incredible ability to shoot itself in the foot.

This Is the classic problem where players are either too scared to make the wrong decision, confused about which option to take, have lost trust in their team mates, are worried about their own stats (DE/T'OVERS) or simply don't have the right skills. Make no mistake this is a coaching and leadership issue. Goodwin and his team are devoid of answers. They are flailing in their jobs. Belatedly trying moves to rejig the team which ends up destroying any system or Morale that may be left. The year can't finish soon enough for us but sadly we are still left with the rotting carcass of an ineffectual and useless coaching panel for 2020. As for viney and Jones they should step down as captains. They have clearly failed.

I think Max should be Captain next year and it really shows how devoid of leadership this club is but Viney has taken games and virtually won them by his sheer willpower. I am thinking principally of the game against West Coast in Perth 2 yrs ago where he had something like 14 possessions in the last quarter and was the reason we won (by a point). And the time he ran straight at the ball against adelaide and crashed into Alex Georgiou and the Adelaide player and came out with the ball. He has the ability to inspire but I think injuries have taken away a lot of his impact.

I think plenty of us do know about it there are just some that won't acknowledge he is not AFL standard.

Maybe they are trying to keep him away from the play lest he gives it straight back to the opposition....

Well you were responding to my post. And your last line is probably similar to those who are making 2018 sound more than it actually was. Richmond made the prelim in 2001 by 68 points with Frawley in his second year as coach. They didn't play in finals again until 2013. Plenty of teams overrate their list and their club. Lets all hope we're not one.

tanking

Puerile post by someone caught out being wrong. Thanks for playing.

Not defending her but have been told that manufacturers often make different supplements using the same equipment so there is a possibility contamination can occur.

It's pretty clear whatever they are they don't work

That's not something I have have ever said.

We are 17th in defence this year, 9th in 2018, 9th in 2017 and 11th in 2016. But we don't have any room for more defenders because ours are such guns.

Its the manner of the losses, the repeating of the same mistakes, the inability of players to perform simple tasks for a professional footballer and the inability of the coaching staff to articulate a clear plan and execute. And the fact we have been listening to the same shiite for way too long

I heard the interview in question. he said that he had seen it live. So when he said he hadn't watched it again he was clearly saying he hadn't watched a replay. Some nuffies here seem to think that he would lie about that.