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No the umpires have never cost us a flag. But dare I say it: there is more to footy than winning the flag. The poor standard of umpiring and the clear biases which have been documented are not excused by our incompetence. ( I'm not saying you were saying that it was.)

Having some relatives killed fighting wars and even being decapitated as Fork'em states to proudly show how he got over it so easily, is completely different than having your family wiped out in a genocidal event or your land stolen. It takes a little longer to get over it, especially if the oppression continues affecting the survivors for 200 years. I suspect there is a lack of empathy amongst many who take the positions of some frequent posters here - they just can't imagine what it is like. They have always been in the 'in group' and never in a marginalised group like some of us. But nothing anyone says will change their minds.

OK, maybe some people booed him because of his flopping etc. But I'd bet my bottom dollar, a lot of racists felt free to boo him because they had that as an excuse to hide behind. That indicates progress to me - racists being embarrassed to be seen as simply that can only mean that in time those attitudes will only be held by a decreasing minority. Today's PC is tomorrow's social norm. Edit to add: Maybe better to say yesterday's PC is today's social norm.

Come on guys. That's clearly a spoof article. (I hope)

Agree. He now does some good passes compared to the wild delivery he used to do.

Understood. But trying to be as un-prejudicial as I can be, if I knew nothing about the bloke, those comments would have tipped him into my muppet basket. Let's take it a step further - maybe some of the other players should have walked up to Sam and punched his head. (After which several others would have had to stand in a circle and punch the player next to them.)

Sorry Demonland. I can't forget the muppet in those comments. It just confirms in my mind that he is a muppet. (Not that any confirmation is needed.)

He will win it. The umpires think he is such a great player that there is no need to pay him free kicks when his jumper is clearly pulled by his opponent.

I have no military experience but it certainly irritates me too.

True. I suspect it would be useful to practise with goal posts significantly closer together than normal. Then when you see wider goals in front of you under the pressure of a match, you will be more confident. For this to work it must be marked a failed attempt at training if you miss, so no one can excuse misses as 'well I would have got it on normal posts'.

No, not everything that comes your way. But you do deserve everything that relates to poor kicking (and let's not forget those those dropped chest marks).

The amusing thing is that if that last kick went through and we won, all would be forgiven. We'd have the usual criticisms of some players etc, but this thread would be much more positive.

I don't have any particular enthusiasm for Goodwin and are far from convinced about him, but how does players dropping and missing sitters in Q4 make him "non-negotiable"?

I see that differently. Most of us expected to be clobbered in this game (except for a few who always have a gut feeling we will win - dunno what they are eating, but they need to see a quack). So a team with a large number of marginal/inexperienced players with 2 late withdrawals who have hardly played together blew the game. Some see excuses, I see reasons. We finally looked like a decent team again, but blew it. A lot better than most of the rest of this year.

I'm still 98.3% happy with the result.

The age of miracles is not yet passed brothers and sisters.

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2019-05-27/levers-ankle-not-a-worry missing a half plus is not a great way to regain match fitness, but better than MFCSS feared I guess.

It is more relaxing and comforting in a weird way being back in situation normal. I think I need therapy; probably too late for that.

Being a MFC supporter, I don't think that will do the trick. Any anti-depressants on offer?

FCS you blokes. I keep coming to this thread hoping there is information on Lever and all I get is people wallowing in nostalgia. Must be a thread for that somewhere else? Please.

Ah, so it's now "three strikes and you're in"

Actually they are bloody good compared to what they were when many on Demonland were young. There was a time when the most reliable prediction was tomorrow the same as today. Fast computers, better models and more input data have made a big difference.

I didn't imply it was acceptable. It's bloody disappointing. But our situation requires more analysis than just comparing a number with Carlton's.

I wonder what their percentage would be if half their best players were injured. Sorry to be looking for excuses, but I reckon some on here would blame the team for losing if the team bus was hit by a meteorite on the way to the oval.

Reward? The AFL sure knows how to fuel conspiracy theories. On the other hand....