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Good suggestion, would love to know what that entailed. Will never happen

Outrageous. How lowering a shoulder when airborne and collinding with an opponents head only makes sense when it get's a Collingwood player off suspension during a finals campaign. I'd also love to know how a knee to the back at full force in an attempt to spoil is a football act. Moor did this twice in a month. Tracc then Jarrad Witts left with two cracked verterbrae. Nary a word spoken. Corrupt! Don't know but I'd have thought that would have elapsed by now. Must appeal IMV

Filthy we didn't appeal the Kozzie suspension. We should have defended to the last inch.

Maybe someone else can Step up and help him out? Do they need the title to do that. Of there's things he's not good at, give him some f'n help

I think deestars point was every club has had cultural/behavioural issues irrespective of who the captain was. There was stuff at Richmond too under cotchin

Gus may have been a good option. Probably the only realistic one in a world where we have the current version of Tracc...but alas In Max I Trust

Agree worth discussion RP. Your theory could hold water. It could also be that Max is the main reason things aren't/haven't been worse

Max is highly intelligent, rare for footy players. He also has really high emotional intelligence. He'll know when it's time for a change and he won't be just thinking about what's best for him. It will be what's best for the club. And when the change does come, he'll be able to articulate very clearly the reasons for it.

Agree. The man is a collosus

Just when demonland thinks it knows the answers, Tracc changes the questions...

Agree but even if he was open to going there. Why would they want to spend $1m+ on him right now. Injured, petulant, distracting and 29

If he's a free agent would the free agent compensation regime not apply? I thought we have two types of free agent, restricted and unrestricted. I'm not clear on the qualifying rules, just my simple understanding...

Richmond have the capital but I can't see why they would want him. He doesn't seem to be the leader they need, more likely a distraction for a club trying to bring a bunch of kids through together

If the narrative becomes he's not the player he was previously so we take unders we must not cede. We get what market price or he stays or he can retire. Question, if both parties agree to rescind the contract does he becomes a free agent?

I think you're onto it Deecat. If the blues get bundled out they will come sniffing. McKay could be considered surplus with them having Curnow & TDK. TDK would be seen as the younger, faster coverall, don't think they'll let him go. It will be a gamble for them but it could be a great outcome for us. McKay and their first rounder for Tracc... or even better. McKay, Walsh and their first rounder for Trac and our 2025 first. Off we go!

Love Max. God knows where we'd be without him. Certainly no flag in 2021 and the situaton we have now would have happened years ago and probably been much worse. Suspect he is probably the main reason it's taken till now for it to really bubble over.

Classic! 😄

Take your point LH. I am worried about whether Kate has or hasn't done enough but am reassured by those comments from Trac 2 months ago...BUT her about her inablility to convince me she has/is doing enough is a major worry. That's the message we needed in the media to protect the brand of MFC. She didn't/couldn't do that which poured petrol on the fire.

Yep I reckon you're right. By Monday they'll want the attention on the games ahead. For now this is good enough to keep rugby off the main pages

Agree. Max was outstanding and always is. He takes ownership and is genuine. He makes you believe that he will do whatever he can to make things better.

Great posts. It will be raw and painful and based on our mob involve way to many leaks to the media but for mine it seems the main reason the leaders of the club don't want it is because of the nature of the skeletons that will be laid bare. I'll admit, I have been behind the club and it's leaders staunchly the whole way along. Probably too long, too optimistic and too trusting, but the wheel has turned too far now. No other way.

I actually think Garry has the capability to be a very good president and brings with him credibility and respect in the media and AFL world in general. I'd suspect he probably doesn't have the time / energy to spare that would be required to do it well.

There are several reasons Collingwood is protected but the biggest one is Eddie's control/influence on the media, particularly in Vicotria. It's not just Collingwood that have been very successful at keeping a lid on less than tasteful or things that the media would salivate over it is was at Melbourne or a handful of other clubs. Geelong have done it very well. Richmond as well. Carlton have gotten a lot better at it in recent years. Some of it comes from the inherent respect the leaders have earned (rightfully or otherwise), some of it is they are proactive and forceful with the media and the narratives they try to push. Sadly we; have little inherent respect (aside from Max) we have not made any inroads into building that respect our leaders, it seems, either: don't know what they are doing, or; aren't doing what they should be very well, or; they are doing the best they can but it's not working/can't articulate it publicly in a manner that inspires confidence

Not just this issue Dante, several (I am sad to say). The camel's back is broken, we can't look away any longer

The media's treatment of us is but one of the biggest problems the club has failed to fix. In fact, I'd suggest whatever they have tried to do (outside of Max's efforts) has only made things worse.