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We did that pre 21, Brown, May, Langdon, Lever. Those deals plus expensive reisginings, Tracc, Oliver, Brawyshaw, Kozzy doesn't leave much in the bank

Agree. Will get us to another level of professionalism and the need for 5+ year deals go away. Teams and players will actually map out their careers and see the whole thing as a partnership. We're together while it makes sense for both parties (eg. likelihood/interest in winning vs opportunities to make money etc.) It will also allow the AFLPA to negotiate more money in the EBA eg. inconvenience of moving allowance. And it brings about the possibility of using free agency as a negotiating tool for clubs/players/agents. Eg. the club agrees that player x becomes a free agent at the end of a contract (or after time served) so that the player knows he isn't just bound by trade to find his new home.

Can only hope he was unfit/injured this year. His lack of penetration when kicking was is a real concern. Spargo would kick further. We've been playing moneyball the last few seasons. Not h ad the cap space to attract serious talent, hence Hunter, McAdam, Schache, Billings, etc speculative & inexpensive Grundy wouldn't have been an option if not for the Pies paying 50%

Unless they know they won't get games elsewhere either. In that case they'll sign. Pick 25 looks to have been overs for McAdam but it's what we had to offer/the Croms wanted and I suspect we'd committed to him months earlier. Another preseason to see what he can do. I'll reserve final judgment for another 9 months or so

Over ager because he was primarily focused on basketball though, is that right? As a catergory b rookie I am not sure what we have to lose, particularly if it might help to lure Mac.

Thanks, pleased I've impressed you

Nathan saying it's necessary is about as close as the players are saying it's necessary as you can get

Because I heard her speak and sadly Kate couldn't inspire me to cross the street to pick up a $50 note stuck in chain link fence

I largely agree Dino the board is there to steer and not drive day to day, but when speaking, the President (or any board member for that matter), should be well across the issues(s) of which they are speaking about. And, they should be able to inspire confidence in that organisation's ability to manage/resolve that issue.

Those sides look painfully slow in my view. We really need AMW and Tholstrup playing at a level that holds a spot because we need the pace, even more so with no ANB and Pickett missing the first 3 games. or, we need to draft/trade in some speed, & kicking skills. This next 6 don't offer any pace either, unless Jeffo has some toe for a big fella "Possibles: Pick 6, Melksham, Jefferson, Billings, Spargo, McAdam, Fullarton"

Did old mate sub Christian with Lever and May?

Good suggestion, would love to know what that entailed. Will never happen

Outrageous. How lowering a shoulder when airborne and collinding with an opponents head only makes sense when it get's a Collingwood player off suspension during a finals campaign. I'd also love to know how a knee to the back at full force in an attempt to spoil is a football act. Moor did this twice in a month. Tracc then Jarrad Witts left with two cracked verterbrae. Nary a word spoken. Corrupt! Don't know but I'd have thought that would have elapsed by now. Must appeal IMV

Filthy we didn't appeal the Kozzie suspension. We should have defended to the last inch.

Maybe someone else can Step up and help him out? Do they need the title to do that. Of there's things he's not good at, give him some f'n help

I think deestars point was every club has had cultural/behavioural issues irrespective of who the captain was. There was stuff at Richmond too under cotchin

Gus may have been a good option. Probably the only realistic one in a world where we have the current version of Tracc...but alas In Max I Trust

Agree worth discussion RP. Your theory could hold water. It could also be that Max is the main reason things aren't/haven't been worse

Max is highly intelligent, rare for footy players. He also has really high emotional intelligence. He'll know when it's time for a change and he won't be just thinking about what's best for him. It will be what's best for the club. And when the change does come, he'll be able to articulate very clearly the reasons for it.

Agree. The man is a collosus

Just when demonland thinks it knows the answers, Tracc changes the questions...

Love Max. God knows where we'd be without him. Certainly no flag in 2021 and the situaton we have now would have happened years ago and probably been much worse. Suspect he is probably the main reason it's taken till now for it to really bubble over.

Classic! 😄

Great posts. It will be raw and painful and based on our mob involve way to many leaks to the media but for mine it seems the main reason the leaders of the club don't want it is because of the nature of the skeletons that will be laid bare. I'll admit, I have been behind the club and it's leaders staunchly the whole way along. Probably too long, too optimistic and too trusting, but the wheel has turned too far now. No other way.

I actually think Garry has the capability to be a very good president and brings with him credibility and respect in the media and AFL world in general. I'd suspect he probably doesn't have the time / energy to spare that would be required to do it well.