Demon Disciple

if we had of picked up talia instead, i reckon he wouldn't have turned out as well as he has with the crows, given our development of kids of late has been extremely poor.

For me it's not so much about height and weight (within reason - obviously cannot have a 180cm 80kg guy trying to hold down CHF), moreso, the way they play the position. KPP's need to have a presence about them, they must thrive on contact and physicality, they must want the ball and command it when they don't have it. Jack Watts has none of these traits, whereas Mitch Clark does. We still need another KPF and given we only have one decent KPD with these traits (Frawley), i still firmly believe that we are in need of another KPD as well (hopefully Sheahan comes on - as it will allow McDonald to play a type of high possession, re-bounding Dustin Fletcher type role)

He's not a world-beater, but he's a better player than many are willing to concede on here.

yep, we could've and should've taken Darling. I remember the exact moment when we read out Cook's name on the radio, which lead me to say in shock "woooaaahhhhh", i knew right then and there that we had stuffed that pick up. Thanks again Barry, also wanted to get Talia with pick 11 in the '09 draft. I know we all think we are expert recruiter's, but i honestly think i would have chosen better prospects than BP did, which goes to show how [censored] of a recruiting manager he was.

Lucas Cook is now said to be gone - trade or de-listed Demons exodus continues with Lucas Cook

And to think we could've taken Talia at #11 at the time. BP has to go down as just about the worst recruiting manager of all time. People cannot overstate the importance of this upcoming draft for us, i'm just relieved that we don't have someone as inept as BP was in the job leading us now.

Apparantely we did know, because when asked to confirm by the Herald Sun, we said that what has transpired was expected. But even so, it has now been 90 minutes since the sotry broke that LJ has quit the club, i would have thought it doesn't take that long for the club to clarify and post something on the official MFC website. This is not the first time, many times actually, where melbournefc.com.au is the last place to inform melbourne supporters on certain things concerning the MFC. I just think it's an extremely poor effort to keep its members informed, seeing how we are trying to become 'elite' in everything we do, HA.

What i find equally disturbing, is that whilst every other media outlet in town is reporting on Jurrah leaving us, there is not even anything mentioned on the mfc website. Once again, if you want to know anything MFC related, melbournefc.com.au is the last place to let you know. Pathetic. Boy we really know how to look after our supporters don't we!

The good thing is, given Essendpn finish outside the 8, our pick basically goes up by 1, seeing that they will have to part with their 1st rounder for Daniher (though that's still a massive win for them, would be rapt to have gotten him at pick 1 if we had it.)

would rather get Kennedy at pick 13 (if he's still there) than give it up for Caddy. Kennedy has just as big a kick, is a hell of a lot quicker, has much greater goal nous and can find the ball a lot easier than Caddy. The only area Caddy is supreme is in the guts, but given his current form, i'm starting to doubt that too. Kennedy all the way

Stick with me here, If we were to get both MD picks, no one says we have to use both in the mini draft. It is known that both WA teams would dearly love to get their hands on Martin, but neither believe they will be able to come up with the right price. Of the two, West Coast is right into Martin in a big big way. It is also known that we are still very keen on Gaff. Would we put it to the weagles........ would they be willing to give up Gaff (a victorian boy) in exchange for Martin? Gaff signed a 3-year extension to stay at West Coast, but if we were able to persuade him to come home, and WCE also agreed to the deal........................just something to think about! We might have to throw in something more to get it done (and no, not Morton - may as well try and sell them a car with 3 wheels), but in effect, we would be losing the fat one's off-spring and getting Gaff (very similar player who has surpassed him) whilst also getting pick 13.

McKenzie doesn't add much to our team, what he does is try and take away from the other team. He's not all that flash and is at best an average player, but there are many that should go before him. He is one of only a few at the club who continually puts in 100%. It is his type that develops culture within a club.

There was never a Chinese sponsorship within kooee of being signed. Schwab readily admitted this at a news conference when the energywatch debacle happened. It was a ballsy play and CS would have been lauded a champion if he landed a big fish, but sadly to no avail.

They cannot be banked and have to be used in the upcoming draft, don't know how they figure out what pick to give though.

what's with all the Caddy love??? Seriously, he is doing stuff all in pretty much all of his games. He is definately not worth a first round pick the way he has played in his games to date. Massively overrated on here and in the AFL community.

One of the main problems with drafting these hulking forwards is that they are playing against small bodies, once they hit the big time it's a different matter. If we were to get Hogan, he would at least have a year to train on bigger, AFL seasoned bodies and develop in the VFL as well, making the jump to AFL less daunting, he'd be better advanced than if he were to transition from juniors to AFL in the space of 6 months. Then there is the issue of his kicking. Butcher apparently had these problems, Cloke continues to have these problems as does Franklin, Hawkins is only just starting to shake off his own. 3 of these 4 forwards are considered to be the premier KPF's of the AFL and Butcher is advancing nicely. ipso facto, goal kicking can get sorted out. The ability to take the contested mark or lead successfully, and creating a continual bruising presence is the main need for KPF's.

replace garlett with kennedy and your on a winner

after being stunned by the Lions, and playing for a top 2 finish, i expect the Crows to come out breathing fire. Will be good to see what we are made of, even though i think the Crows will be too good and get over us by about 30 points.

If we got a boak or caddy with pick 13 + extra, i'd be willing to take Kennedy at pick 4, behind Toumpas, provided we are able to take Viney with our second rounder.

Ben Kennedy in this years draft is one that i am red hot on. He has pace, explosive pace, has great disposal, can find the footy, is a natural small forward and is very capable in the midfield, both receiving and extracting. The only thing holding back from definite top 5 is his height. Would love to get him at pick 13, but if we are able to snag Viney with a 2nd rounder, i'd be very willing to bring Kennedy to the Dees with pick 4 after getting Toumpas with pick 3. Leaving pick 13 for us to draft another kid or trade to bring in another mid. We've already got Sam Blease, but we could definately do with another of his type, one in the middle and one in the forward line!

i think he's getting mixed up with some new rule that's a part of free agency.

sure we could have picked player A over player B, etc. But would have player A turned out half as good with us than with their respective teams? Given the development of our young brigade so far, i think not.

I bet this weekend that Serhat Temel will also bob up and kick a lazy 10 for whoever he plays for now

Neeld loves his contested ball winners, but we also desperately need pace and skill. Apart from Cloke or some other experienced players through free-agency, i wouldn't go trading away any picks in the top 20. Now we can all dream of getting Viney in the second round, it's less likely to happen, but our luck is bound to turn around some time soon! Sure it's all speculative and i'm sure i did this only 3 years ago coming into the 2009 draft, but anways: pick 3 - Toumpas pick 4 - Wines/??? tough inside player with good disposal and speed (not break neck) pick 13 - Kennedy (about as likely as getting Viney in the second round) pick 24ish - Viney Our midfield problems should*** be taken care of from this draft if it were to pan out this way Getting Cloke through FA would be the cherry on top. The impact won't be immediate, as we'd still be very young, but given that mids take less time to come on than KPP's, our new young mids should be starting to have an impact, just as our young talls begin to establish themselves at AFL level.

Cam Schwab's mantra recently is for the club to aspire to be 'elite', by his own notion, he should be more than happy for us to at least see if there are any potential CEO's out there that would be considered a greater chance of getting the MFC to such 'eliteness', compared to CS. I want the best CEO we can get, if that's CS good, if it's someone else, then i'd want them.