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Not going to watch as I find the show to be a bore. It is nice to have some reasonably polished media performers in our side though. The years of watching Bruce and Green in front of the cameras have been a tad nauseating.

I highly doubt that.

I totally agree Pates. I don't even know how we're supposed to form a concrete view of him as a player when he's been completely unable to string games together. I think most of us are pretty happy what we've seen so far, but he's still just in the potential stage really rather than being an established player. Let the bloke stabilise his career first. There just doesn't seem to be any logic whatsoever in the Grimes for captain movement.

I lol'd. Unbelievable that some want him to be captain - I'd start with "regular player" myself.

Novel idea.

Myth.

West gone but Mahoney retained? Can't wait to hear what all the armchair experts have to say about this.

Phase one of operation "find the best". Thanks for your services boys.

Yikes, drastic! I'm flexible and adaptable to change - I'll get used to it :-)

As my position has always been, I have no idea what a good coach looks like or who that might be. I'm not going to pretend that I do and name names. I do hope Neeld is able to surround himself with some really talented help though. I want the whole team leading this club to be strong, not just the senior coach.

So many things wrong with this. Others have already touched on how we should focus on doing ourselves a favour before doing Collingwood any, but how about this quote from Mick Malthouse of the MFC website?

Heaps I have liked about what I've heard and read so far, but this is probably what pricked my ears up the most. I've come to think that being surrounded by absolute quality is just as critical as having quality at the top. I hope the club spares no expense in this regard.

Where's the link to the press conference where he said this will be the game plan?

That's how it seems, doesn't it? If getting the "experienced" bloke is such a straightforward answer then clubs would never appoint "new" coaches and the old farts would be kicking around forever. I doubt Hawthorn are too disappointed they took an "untried" coach name Al Clarkson in the mid 00s when he took them to a flag, especially when an experienced coach in Terry Wallace was in the mix at the time. The premierships aren't going to keep coming from the same 3 or 4 coaches, so eventually a club's untried coach is going to become a premiership holding great coach. I'm happy for the MFC to try and find that coach.

I don't understand the "untried" argument. Can't see how this is any more risky than, say, Laidley or Eade who have coached at the top level without achieving the ultimate success.

Why don't we worry about 2012 first?

They exercised an option that was not available to us.

You're right in that Freo got the job by going in the back door, but I expect if Melbourne had tried this the response would've been "talk to my manager". Freo only had this back door available to them because they couldn't do it through Lyon's manager - if he'd responded to Freo in that manner they'd have been forced to just walk away, why would Lyon want that? They bypassed the "process" and got the result they wanted, so well done to them there, but I think the logic of "Freo went in the back door therefore Melbourne could have too" has holes in it - the back door was only visible to them because of extenuating circumstances.

Richmond, Richmond, Essendon, Essendon. I think you may've just gotten to the bottom of the problem.

Allan Joyce anyone?

I believe GWS upped their offer to Scully a number of times, and I bet the 5 years becoming 6 was a very recent addition. Like nutbean I highly doubt their initial offer to Scully's management last year or whenever looked anything like the one he ended up with. Still think Scully wasn't lying the whole year and that he made his decision very late in the piece. Still think he's a prick for leaving. Will still always inwardly boo him (and possibly outwardly) when watching the footy. Still very keen to move on now.

You were given the opportunity to be specific and concise rather than vague and wishy-washy and you missed it. Those looking for intelligent, informed opinions will now skip over your posts from now on. Bad luck.

Well said.

It wasn't so long ago that Ross Lyon and Alistair Clarkson were just "highly rated assistants". The next great coach will have to come from somewhere and this year's batch looks as good as any. Heck, it was less than ten years ago that Paul Roos was Rocket Eade's right hand man. By all reports this year's bunch of "untried" coaches-to-be is as good as any. Of course it could all go to poo (it could also go to poo with Lyon or Malthouse in charge), but I don't see any reason to be especially pessimistic about it.

Yes. I thought players showing faith and loyalty to the club at exactly the same time that one of their higher profile team "mates" was giving us the bird was significant.