Nasher

What about today? Was fine for me all of yesterday and still is today?

Yellow tends not to clash with navy blue.

I'd do the deal for pick 2. There's still a good chance he'll become top shelf I think, so it's trading a maybe for a maybe (as opposed to the Selwood trade which is a maybe for a definitely not), only this maybe has a couple of years development up his sleeve. I see it as a lowish risk way of skipping a couple of steps in the long winded improvement process.

Looked like running in a match was going to kill him early in the year, and finished off the year looking like a well oiled machine. Has the right shape for a solid midfielder, backs his pace and runs until he chucks. Another big fan here.

Ugh - jeez. I'd prefer if we could just sneak up the ladder quietly this time. The bleaters on BigFooty and such have been a massive source of embarrassment over our previous iterations of "rebuilds".

Bitterly disappointed with Toumpas' output in finals so far.

Yes, number one flog is my chief ambition. I'm not against differing opinions. I'm just not going to argue with someone who has at best misinterpreted, or at worst misrepresented what I have said in a gross fashion. You're clearly not catching what I'm pitching so I'm giving up. Edit: if it helps, in principle I'd love it if we picked up Scott Selwood and don't think it would set us back in the least. My problem isn't with Scott Selwood.

If you think that's what I said or it's the point I'm trying to argue, I'm afraid I'm no longer able to help you.

He'd die for it, but he wouldn't play in it for a mean old coach who wanted him to try new roles? Okie dokie. Edit: Sorry - didn't see Little Goffy's post, which says the same thing. So yeah, what he said.

If you're going to give up on the possibility of picking a star because "they could become a slow flanker", then enjoy watching a side that finishes 6-14 for the rest of eternity. If we took that attitude, we might as well just fold now. Of course there's a risk that you might get a not-much-better-than-average player at #2. Surely taking that risk is a no-brainer though, given the potential reward?

I raised this in a discussion with a Richmond supporting mate, when he got cranky when I said I hope their mob got flogged by Carlton and he said something along the lines of "the forever struggling clubs should stick together". I nearly threw up. Excluding GWS (because they haven't got any fans so nobody gets hurt), if you go back through recent history, the only team in the last 20 years to have percentage worse than ours this year was Fitzroy in 1996. Even the disastrous Fitzroy teams of 1994 and 1995 had a better percentage than us this year. The diabolical Carlton sides in the mid 00s managed percentages in the high 60s, low 70s. No other team has had to endure the gravity and regularity of the beltings that we've suffered in the last two years in particular. It's amazing we're all still here talking about it. This is why I'm absolutely stoked to have the best coach in the business at the helm, even if it's only for a couple of years. Despite the gumbies on BigFooty moaning about AFL assistance or that Roos is only in it for the money (I don't follow this logic btw), we are clearly the worst side of the modern era and we desperately need help. With the right foundations in place we'll be able to move forward with a good coach like Simpson, Tudor etc, but we need the best of the best to get the foundations in place first. I still can't wipe the smile off my face this morning. Like anything, Roos doesn't come with any guarantee of success, but at least we can be confident that if we can't get ourselves out of this hole it's not because we made a poor selection of senior coach.

Yes - I've been trying to avoid mass hyperbole, but I don't think I can help it any more. I've felt like I've been in mourning since 186 (hence having '186' as my custom title), and now I finally feel like I might be able to start moving on. I think the new title is appropriate. Here's a bag for anyone I've nauseated.

Why?

Pick 2 might become a star. I can't understand why anyone would want to trade "might be a star" for "certainly isn't a star".

McKenzie and Byrnes are also in the leadership group.

Three years is ages. Who knows who will be the next big assistant by then? I agree with WYL, let's just focus on the Roos era for now.

Do you try and go against the grain on purpose or something? All year you were telling us everything was going to plan when we were clearly up to our eyeballs in dung, then when the best news that we've heard in arguably decades hits, you're the one person going "meh, I'll reserve judgement" when everyone else is doing cartwheels.

Give us a hug, Stu. Once in a lifetime opportunity - I'm clean!

I step in to the shower when Paul Roos isn't coach. When I get out, Roos is coach. I should shower more often.

I love a good Lynden bag-fest as much as anyone, but surely there's a time and a place for it. Well done on the B+F finish and a consistent year under trying circumstances.

Since we did a hardware upgrade a few months ago the site's hardly blinked, even with Neeld happening and so on. You can never be 100% sure but I'm pretty damn confident you can all do your worst at slamming the site and it'll hold up.

If by the site you mean Demonland, I'll take that bet. What are you putting up?

I had him on my "good player playing crud footy under a crud coach" list. He seemed to have a lightbulb moment and worked out that he had to stand up and show the bloody way because nobody else would. From then on he reached a new level and didn't sway from it.

It's one thing to be paranoid, it's another to abuse someone based on your own delusion.

Paul Roos would just edit the post and post something my 5 year old would say.No wait, that's me that would do that. :D