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Be interesting to compare them from the week before (exclude the blues game as an anomaly) and see how we compare up.

For those of you crying out for Preuss, what specifically did you like about his game at Casey? Which parts of his second half inspired you? Honestly, when he puts together 4 quarters, does not give away lazy frees late in the game, and does more around the ground, then he will easily push for a spot. If it also going to be freezing and raining, then our gamestyle will be chaos ball into 50. If anything, we will flood back (AKA Hawks) and deny them room and possession, and win it in the contest. Expect overlap run and over the back goals, or slogs from contested ball.

Happy with this. None of those guys were playing well enough to come straight back into the ones from injury. Make them prove themselves at Casey. Wagner had a good game last week, so that is a fair call to replace ANB. Some discussion may be around Preuss, but at Casey last week he started strong, but after half time was a liability. He gave away 3 goals from stupid frees, and was unsighted around the ground. Could not promote him on this effort.

Our 80 point loss and inability to kick a score are costing us

Good pickup. Being managed? Anyone hear anything from training today?

Better would be chains to inside 50.

If Salem does not get up, then we need a clean ball user to replace him. Lever might be the best of what we have in the tin, and push Frittata forward. Prefer him at Casey, though, to get his game awareness back to where it needs to be

Your first problem is to believe that the business called ‘football’ has to be fair. This would preclude maximising profit.

Terrible thread. Mumford might be a (unpleasant person as often described crudely as female genitalia). However some of you are sounding like that Hawforn mentally retarded supporter on the hawks TV segment. You really want to ‘fix up’ a player? Imagine if this happened to one of our players - in fact some of you think it may happen to Max. It is a game. Suggesting that we act like common thugs (Matthews, Bruns, etc) is poor form. Go watch MMA ffs. I want the team that I support to play better football, and start winning more games because they are better. We know Mummy has ‘form’, but we should all be better than that.

Disagree. Smith going off had a massive structural effect - it freed up an intercept marker for them in our D50. We were also down 2 rotations (soon to be 3). The AFL have confirmed the free kick was a wrong decision. We actually needed to focus on the roles, and cover back across in defence. We didn’t do this, and looked to run out of legs. We tactically failed to deliver it clear into 50 away from their (now free) intercept markers. A bit of a ‘sugar high’ from some faux aggression was way less important that proper attention to the gameplan. It is a game, and encouraging violence for the sake of ‘being a tough guy’ is a bit silly, especially when one punch acts and stuff like the fights in the crowd are a serious topic at the moment. Play the game fairly but strongly is fine, encouraging violence to intimidate or interfere with another’s capability to play is pretty [censored] weak.

I look forward to 2020. Haven’t given up on ‘19 yet ( we are still a mathematical chance!!!!). Suspect it could all be aligning for 2020 - experience and list, better draw, hopefully not 17 surgeries and delayed preseasons. Oh, and maybe no rule changes to bung our systems.

Arrogant tosses can sing what they like. 6 goals to 1 in the final term give them bragging rights. Best response is to beat them on the park. They are the reigning premiers and still a capable footy side. We are neither ATM.

He commented that he ‘let himself down’ a few times, and was under the ball on a few occasions. Said it was about timing and match feel. After a year out, I’ll give him that.

Umpires dont hate us. We simply don’t attract the positive bias that comes from winning flags, being Brownlow medallists, or being back page of the HS. This puts us at a significant disadvantage - unless the rule breach is clear, their expectation and confirmation bias will work against us, so we dont get 50/50, but more like get 30/70. When we are also considered ‘bad’ public citizens (May, Bugg, etc), this weighs against us as well.

Came on 15 minute mark first quarter. Played 80 minutes

No one really put their hand up at Casey. Sparrow was wasteful with disposal. Preuss started well, but gave away 3 frees in their 50 leading to shots on goal. Lever moves well, and is a class above, but didnt do too much. Jordon, Chandler and Bedford not pushing the selectors to pick them yet. Kielty looks better for the run at AFL level, and competed pretty well. Looked like they also had him down back in the second half, where he was less influential.

Stopped winning it in close, and running second to most contests.

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Any coverage of the game today?

Missed absolute sitters from set shots. Dropped a mark 20 m out uncontested. Real standout moments that cost us. His groundball game was excellent, but the kid cant kick from a set shot ATM. THink his confidence is way down

Some observations: TMAC was fantastic for the first time this year. His marks up the ground and at the start really set the tone. Sauce (Baker) did well. His first few touches were excellent. He got caught a few times, some from hospital passes, others from trying to take it on. Much to like. Trac is a concern. His work rate and his groundball gets have been terrific, but his set shots are diabolical. Jeff Garlett looks like he wants to kick off the outside of his boot and do the fancy stuff. Kick a drop punt FFS! That one on the run was poor thinking and execution. Max was dominant. No other word for it. His hitouts to advantage were a joy to watch. Leaving Preuss out was probably the right call. Smith made the intercept defenders accountable with movement that Preuss wouldn’t have given. Preuss may have been a big target, but all night big packs flew at either end, and the big guys were neutralised. Frost played a good game. One fumble on the line does not take away from his good work. Loved his tackle on Petruccelle. We structured up and played well. Losing 3 players to concussion must be a record (4 for the match). The loss of Salem and Smith had a massive impact. Smith was doing a great job making their intercept markers accountable, and Salem’s delivery was missed. The umpiring was significant. That Smith incident was appalling. We lost the 50 /50s all night, and that throw was so obvious and directly led to a goal. Another incident was when Kennedy flew for a mark, pushed the Melb player forward in the contest but did not even touch the ball. It went from that contest straight for a goal. So many more, that it was actually a blight in the game Was so much better to watch than previous weeks. We took the game on, and did so much better. Still need to fix our movement inside 50, and obviously our goal kicking, but there was a lot of improvement in what we saw. 3:6 is irrelevant from a historic point of view. We really can lose only 3-4 more games and make the finals. If we can pinch a couple before the bye, start getting the best team on the park, we could get close. The AFL would be happy with the game as a spectacle. Go Dees

WTF? What do you want them to do? They were recovering from the contest, and you would not have expected the grubs to rub Max’s noses in it. And what for, not taking a mark? They didnt take the mark either. Vardy was OWNED by Gawn. His is a disgrace of a person for doing that. Max’s team mates pushed the idiots away, which was all it deserved. To escalate this would have been a pointless, and probably expensive exercise. Wanting them to ‘stand up for Max’ is simply stupid. There were plenty of times throughout the night when players supported each other.

I note that the Casey game is 2pm Sat. Emergencies can hop on the late night flight and suit up for Casey.

Looking at your avatar perhaps not!

Good luck to Jake Lever, for a safe and high quality return.