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Their burble about Beams being a top 10 player in the competition and demanding pick 4 plus Rockliff / Hanley is outstanding comedy.

He's a bit like jack watts - not good enough or strong enough to be a KPP. He'll have cameo games where he looks $1m, but they'll forever be few and far between.

He still runs around like a newborn giraffe- all spindly legs and boundless enthusiasm. Not without talent, but he's hardly likely to set the world on fire.

Rohan has pace and is a great kick. Big difference to Riley. Not saying pig dog won't be able to come back from his injury to play good football, but it's not exactly apples with oranges.

That deal is gold for us, Saints, lousy for Giants.

Lots of talk re Howlett being the mooted Bombers trade.

Howard and Footscray are proof positive that we are not the only club who routinely stuff first round picks up.

Ryder is not going to Brisbane - he's Port Adelaide bound from what I understand. Pick 16 is what Port are prepared to offer; delusional Peptides want a top 5 pick (which is why their preference is for Brisbane - but that pick may be reserved for Beams). I'm trying desperately to reserve judgement on Clark's character until after a decision on his future is made. Personally, I think to us he's worth a mid first round to low second round pick, but to any other club it'll probably be more like a fifth rounder. With Horatio likely to go to North - finals side, fantastic international affairs program, strong community involvement and sense of self righteousness over not being involved in pokies etc - I think the filth are likely going to try to bend us over and roger ramjet us.

Absolute myth that Collingwood didn't know. Has been rumoured all year. He becomes a restricted free agent at the end of 2015, from what I understand, and will walk if they don't trade him. I have a six pack riding on him being at Brisbane by 2016 season.

Could never understand why we recruited the smallest Maori in existence. He may have been a phenomenal athlete but he was never going to make it with his body shape.

Ah, the new Gary Lyon. His game against the Pies was scintillating. And then...

amazing to think he was considered the second best player in his draft behind scully. so many - more than just dusty - have gone past these two blokes it ain't funny.

I think saying he was 'impressive' might be overstating it a bit. More 'tall' and 'skinny'.

His work rate is superb, his disposal less than ordinary. At probably 16 other clubs he'd be midfield depth; at ours, he's been regular 22 for two seasons. Scary.

Tries hard, runs the lines, another one who can't kick. And and Georgiou's decision to dress as Rolf and s school girl was probably his biggest gaffe of the year, which when you consider some of the howler kicks coming out of defence is quite an achievement. I wouldn't mind seeing him trialled as a defensive half forward next year - he played that role reasonably well late in the year.

Big difference from last year is he didn't blaze away every time he got within 60m of the big sticks. He has pace and he puts in repeat efforts. He's not flashy, but he at least looks like he gives a damn. Ultimately, he's probably only best 22 because our list is so wretchedly average.

He talks a great talk.

Outcome will be a negative result. Has been telegraphed for a while unfortunately.

Sadly, Bombers' fans ability to be deluded is simply extraordinary. I know a couple who similarly believe that they've done no wrong, the club will be vindicated, Hird is a saint, Little a brilliant man, etc, etc, the list goes on and on. They're simply deluded, to the point of being comical.

He'll get another year to further press his claims.

This.

Plug and play defensive cover. Could have gone without the Rolf / school girl shenanigans with fellow former Redleg Terlich.

Is it true Max won after only playing eight games for the Scorpions in 2014? That's a scary indictment on the blokes who suited up week in, week out for the 'seconds'.

Agree with dazzledavey36. Like a bunch of other players on our list, I just don't see anything with this guy that's at afl standard. Of course it could be worse. We could have Robbie Warnock.

Very impressive season, once he came into the side. Now, to back it up...