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what happens if we win sub-5 games again and apply for ANOTHER priority pick??

Questions to be answered: How much improvement did they make in 2014? How much further can it be in 2015? Will restructure change the fortunes of the club? Where are they at? Brought in midfielders in 2014. Bolstered ability around the ball. Cross and Vince short-term fixes, Vince will last longer. Future of club revolves around Dom Tyson (great pick up), Viney, Salem, and Hogan – but there’s a lot of pressure on that kid as a youngster who has yet to play a game. Either need to trade picks or select young talent (Brayshaw important). Team structure? Frost helps spine for future – McDonald and Frost down back, Tyson in the middle, Hogan forward. Lumumba and Garlett will add depth; latter is the ‘right’ age. Need the young rucks to take control with Jamar 31 years old, Spencer 25, Fitzpatrick and Gawn 23 – but are they the right age to be big competitors. Greatest need? Midfield depth, either pick Brayshaw or trade those early picks. Frost will help, or Lever in the draft in terms of backline depth. Potentially in a reasonable position. Losses / gains Trengove not leaving, Lumumba and Garlett as per above, Frost likely. Frawley deal an absolute bonus – need to now take advantage of having those two early picks. Make / hold / lose ground Haven’t seen enough to back them in. Thinks they’ll hold until he sees their team dynamic change – didn’t see enough development in 2014, particularly going backwards in the second half of the year. Got a few young players who could step up to the next level. Need to see the proof in the pudding. Further comments Weaselface Barrett says that we’re still sniffing around Dangerfield. GWS are improving in comparison with the players they’re bringing (two multiple best and fairest winners) in to improve themselves immediately; we’re not. Wallace says that Roos has had a look at blokes, judged them in 2014, and will need to settle the side down in 2015. Who’re the young blokes coming through? Which seniors will still be around the mark? Neither Barrett or Suntan can see how we can go past GWS as they have the best young talent (I agree) – for every three, four or five young talent Melbourne has, GWS has 15, 18, 20 potentially young stars. Barrett says that Lumumba and Garlett have strings attached. What that means I have no idea, I presume he means that they have question marks over what they bring to the club in terms of character and likely football impact. Wallace thinks Toumpas is a battler as he can’t find the ball, but is still a young player – Barrett intimating that he’s another high draft pick wasted. Suntan said at the underage level he looked a very good young player, but some players step up against men and others are more suited to playing against boys. Suntan says that there’s no way we would’ve selected Toumpas over Wines if Roos had been in charge at the time as he wants bulls who can get the football. “Yet another negative legacy of the previous regime”, says Barrett. Suntan thinks Salem is a very exciting young talent, just needs development. Calls to follow.

Questions to be answered: How much improvement did they make in 2014? How much further can it be in 2015? Will restructure change the fortunes of the club? Where are they at? Brought in midfielders in 2014. Bolstered ability around the ball. Cross and Vince short-term fixes, Vince will last longer. Future of club revolves around Dom Tyson (great pick up), Viney, Salem, and Hogan – but there’s a lot of pressure on that kid as a youngster who has yet to play a game. Either need to trade picks or select young talent (Brayshaw important). Team structure? Frost helps spine for future – McDonald and Frost down back, Tyson in the middle, Hogan forward. Lumumba and Garlett will add depth; latter is the ‘right’ age. Need the young rucks to take control with Jamar 31 years old, Spencer 25, Fitzpatrick and Gawn 23 – but are they the right age to be big competitors. Greatest need? Midfield depth, either pick Brayshaw or trade those early picks. Frost will help, or Lever in the draft in terms of backline depth. Potentially in a reasonable position. Losses / gains Trengove not leaving, Lumumba and Garlett as per above, Frost likely. Frawley deal an absolute bonus – need to now take advantage of having those two early picks. Make / hold / lose ground Haven’t seen enough to back them in. Thinks they’ll hold until he sees their team dynamic change – didn’t see enough development in 2014, particularly going backwards in the second half of the year. Got a few young players who could step up to the next level. Need to see the proof in the pudding. Further comments Weaselface Barrett says that we’re still sniffing around Dangerfield. GWS are improving in comparison with the players they’re bringing (two multiple best and fairest winners) in to improve themselves immediately; we’re not. Wallace says that Roos has had a look at blokes, judged them in 2014, and will need to settle the side down in 2015. Who’re the young blokes coming through? Which seniors will still be around the mark? Neither Barrett or Suntan can see how we can go past GWS as they have the best young talent (I agree) – for every three, four or five young talent Melbourne has, GWS has 15, 18, 20 potentially young stars. Barrett says that Lumumba and Garlett have strings attached. What that means I have no idea, I presume he means that they have question marks over what they bring to the club in terms of character and likely football impact. Wallace thinks Toumpas is a battler as he can’t find the ball, but is still a young player – Barrett intimating that he’s another high draft pick wasted. Suntan said at the underage level he looked a very good young player, but some players step up against men and others are more suited to playing against boys. Suntan says that there’s no way we would’ve selected Toumpas over Wines if Roos had been in charge at the time as he wants bulls who can get the football. “Yet another negative legacy of the previous regime”, says Barrett. Suntan thinks Salem is a very exciting young talent, just needs development. Calls to follow.

well, it's actually only been six months on the sidelines. he had a couple of games in the vfl before it was diagnosed, i seem to remember.

it would appear navicular injuries are very, very hard to come back from.

big blow for the young man. there'd been rumours he'd failed the richmond medical. perhaps it was true after all.

i can definitely see him getting more midfield minutes as he builds a tank. has speed and appears to have strength over the ball. big plusses.

There's no way he's worth a second round pick. In the interests of good faith I'd do the 23 for him and 24. But I'd rather pick him up in the PSD. He looks like Chad Cornes in his 2011 underage highlights. From what I recall of seeing him in gws colours he certainly hasn't played like this. I seem to remember him being a less than reliable kick and in his highlights the kicking action is fluent and looks attractive.

If Christensen is valued at pick 21, and I'd say is far more accomplished than Trengove, it doesn't surprise me it's 12 and 23 for the latter. For a five season player, especially one drafted so early, he's achieved very little in comparison to his peers. Apart from perhaps Scully!

He's gone to Bombers, so it's all irrelevant now.

yep, he raised him in that article he wrote and said he couldn't work why he hadn't come on as expected.

ultimately, i'm putting faith in roos i've decided. i heard someone - another coach, i think it was - talking on trade radio about it the other day and ultimately players are 'commodities' these days. depressing, but true. it's all barassi's fault for going to carlton at the end of 64!

looks like a terrible deal on the face of things. a pick 2 from 5 years ago AND a second round pick for pick 12?

Most bizarre random change to rules / conditions since the last one.

Bulldogs saying he's contracted, and required. Odds on McCartney being sacked by tomorrow?

Pre season draft.

Happy with that.

no, he has a year to go on his contract. pretty extraordinary stuff. all is not well at the kennel.

Surely this has to be considered to be draft tampering.

Oh okay, I was told gambling, I didn't even think about the nags.

I've been told it's not drugs but pokies that's his off field drama. Would love him at the Dees. Hope the Cats get spiflicated for him.

no need to include fitzpatrick in the garlett deal i don't think.

Massive falling out between Cooney and McCartney from all reports.

Faith in Roos.

What's the odds on slime face Barrett calling our approach 'scattergun'?