whatwhat say what

c'mon casey

the colour of the seats?

these sound like bruce springsteen lyrics! all it's missing is a lil stevie riff and some massive sax solo from the big man

bears @ gc17 is barely watchable terrible quality football

no guarantee on that we are currently playing with our 'best available' midfield and we are being routinely thrashed for contested footy

if you were to trade petracca (and it would be pretty silly to do so imo), you'd want it to be for someone who can immediately impact for us, not something speculative; think phillips from the pies to add outside run, ed langdon plus freo's first rounder for trac and our second round pick, etc. etc. i think trading trac would be incredibly short-sighted what i don't understand is that his best footy seems to be played as an impact mid who starts forward and rotates through the middle, but apart from a section in the third quarter against the swans (when we caught longmire on the hop, with brayshaw's turnover hooray henry kicks starting on the bench), he's basically been stationed inside 50 for the majority of the year he is too much of a ground-ball player to play as a forward target - he is only just over six foot tall, is not a marking player but instead is better when the ball is on the turf, so why we continue to play him as a forward target has me beat

that would be the worst deal imaginable

forget him; he's going to hawthorn, if he leaves the franchise and jeremy cameron is signed up to gw$ long-term and under massive, massive money

No chance!

Pies put them to the sword early and since midway thru the second have completely dropped their bundle Peptides are coming now!

quality team

two of the three are out of contract; when the end comes, it can come quickly

we were never at risk of losing hogan 'for nothing' as he would not have been eligible for free agency at the end of 2019 it's not just the worst trade under goodwin, it's the worst trade since we shipped scott thompson out and got brent moloney back may is fat, undersized for a modern key defender, and lazy while kk is the next cale morton; hogan will continue to be the prototype modern key forward we must persevere with weed and t mac up forward as it's out best option; shifting t mac defensively last night was an admission of defeat in my view before the siren had even sounded

Parish is more an insider than an outsider, and Lewis Taylor is very vanilla Throw every spare cent we have at Coniglio as a free agent Get Ed Langdon as a trade for our (unexpectedly high) third rounder Draft Rowell with pick 1 Begin again

Viney gone with a shoulder more than likely

Yep completely forgot about Hannan...when things are glum there’s worse to come!

Our performance is currently substandard, our player development has been poor, we constantly lose stoppage and contests, our backline is under siege, our forward line isn’t functioning, our midfield is getting thrashed for contested footy and ball usage...our rucks are going okay......ish...... Who of the football dept are OUT of contract? Cos it’s all well and good to say “SACK EM!” But we are not a rich club and can’t afford to just sack contracted coaches willy-nilly

OUT: Viney (injured / rested), Spargo, C Wagner, Jetta (injured) IN: Stretch, O Mac, Garlett, Lockhart B: Hore - Frost - Hibberd HB: Salem - O Mac - J Wagner ? Harmes - Brayshaw - Melksham HF: Petracca - T Mac - Hunt F: Preuss - Weideman - Garlett Foll: Gawn - Oliver - Jones I/c: Lewis - Stretch - Fritsch - Lockhart Emerg: Spargo - ANB - C Wagner - Kielty That is not a good lookin’ squad...I reckon eight missing from an ideal 26...it’s a big proportion of quality and depth just not there at the moment INJURED: May, Viney (?), Lever, Kolodjashnij, vandenBerg, JKH, Jetta, J Smith

This is...concerning

good to see sellwood is allowed to throw the ball without any repercussions

especially when you consider he was eligible to be a free agent at the end of 2019 we could've held our nerve, held onto hogan, and then traded him as a non-free agent at the end of 2019 and picked up may on a freebie disastrous list management when all is said and done

Oliver is miles ahead of any other player in his draft year carlton's list is utter dreck when the likes of marc murphy, kade simpson, liam jones, daisy thomas, matthew kreuzer, ed curnow, and levi casboult still running around as key players for them, and all are on the wrong side of 29 gimme our core players over theirs any day

ah, righto well, look, no matter what happens, we're gonna have an 'early' pick in this mid-season fiasco...no wonder the sanfl / wafl / vfl clubs are huffing and puffing about it

i thought lewie taylor was third option behind salem and freeman? i'm happy to acquiesce to yr thoughts, but i thought he was third cab off the rank

Not Nathan Freeman as first option? Jason Taylor tossed up between him and Salem at the time for pick 9, and he’s had a rotten run of injury at two afl clubs, but has the background to know what is required to make it at afl level When is the actual ladder order determined - is it immediately prior to the draft or slightly before? If current positions hold, only North will be picking ahead of us, and it would be reasonable to expect that they’ll go for a tall forward who can impact immediately, whereas we are probably looking for someone with leg speed