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Jesse Hogan on the way out at Freo?
whatwhat say what replied to Bizzell Blitz's topic in Melbourne Demons
of the 22 tomorrow i'd have him replacing t mac in a nanosecond -
it's a big game for both clubs should be good
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one quarter in and i'm ready to give up rubbish football
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Jesse Hogan on the way out at Freo?
whatwhat say what replied to Bizzell Blitz's topic in Melbourne Demons
would have him back happily, but i have zero idea how much baggage he comes with when my mum told me that he was being 'trialed' as a defender for freo's b team during this hub life i thought that's the most pointless thing i've ever heard of; he's the most 'natural' key forward since hawkins, knows where to run, when to lead, how to position his body...playing a player like him in defence makes zero sense it's not as if he's a first year forward and yr teaching him leading patterns etc - he was so good at that from the the get go, and such a great contested mark loved watching him for the dees -
keeping frostball in and bringing back $cully and the general?
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great news kudos to the board and the administrative side of the club now it's up to the footy department to do their bit
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gc17? us? them? pear tiggas freo? cats bears meth coke filth? lotsa 50-50 games
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i refuse to associate them with the rotting corpse of ol' fitzroy
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would love to get jesse back hawks' 2nd round pick for hogan and freo's future 3rd plus they pay half his salary
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even if he effectively doesn't have a roll and can't get paid due to outsized contracts for moore and de goey?
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Proud to Belong, Proud to Give
whatwhat say what replied to Leoncelli_36's topic in Melbourne Demons
Win the premiership and they’ll smash through the $1m barrier -
footscray football club t/a 'western bulldogs' if lachie hunter really is unhappy, go get him, driving charges notwithstanding. josh schache has completely disappeared from their plans - unsurprising given he's simply a 'lead, mark, kick' player in an era which doesn't favour that type of key forward, and bailey dale can't seem to cement a permanent spot with them anymore either. lin jong is always talked about as a trade option since he toured filth central mid-year one year, but his body seems to constantly let him down. preferences: hunter, dale, schache possible trade: future first round for hunter
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meth coke if gaff chooses not to execute his contract extension, i'd be all over him extolling the virtues of the wide open spaces of the mcg (if we return there in 2021 and beyond). jake waterman wants a hefty new contract from all reports but i would imagine that they'll find a way to give it to him. jarrod brander seems like a fringe player but they definitely see him as part of their future side. jack petruccelle is more than good enough to play afl and wouldn't cost an arm or a leg to bring back to victoria you'd think. preferences: gaff, brander, petruccelle possible trade: fourth round pick for petruccelle
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sydney swans again, given where they're at, it's easier to imagine that they'd be the ones approaching us rather than vice-versa to help rebuild their midfield. if papley is on the move and adamant he's coming back to victoria in 2021 you'd be crazy not to be all over him; if only we'd rookied him when he was a casey player. ben ronke can't seem to get a game, which is a worry given how easily the swans seem to let the ball waltz outta their forward line - does he not apply enough defensive pressure? oliver florent is a jet; can't see them letting him go in a hurry. i can only presume that they need magical mystical 'points' to get access to their academy players who grew up in victoria then moved to sydney when they were 14 or something preferences: papley, florent, ronke possible trade: hunt for ronke
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st. kilda saints luke dunstan is out of favour, it would seem, while jack lonie is another player who can't seem to cement a role, while jack sinclair (who i constantly get confused with jade gresham) is another small that doesn't seem to have a spot in their side anymore with their host of players coming in. they've been pretty adamant that they're in the market for a mid to contribute immediately to their best side, so you'd think they'd be keen to chat to the likes of brayshaw, viney from us - if the former, you'd want something good from them coming back the other way; is billings an option as a straight swap? wouldn't go near the likes of jake carlisle or shane savage for either cultural or role reasons. preferences: lonie, sinclair, their first round pick possible trade: billings for brayshaw
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richmond tigers both jack higgins and daniel rioli have been in and out of their side, and other small forwards have gone rocketing past them but i would presume they're both in dimma's plans going forward. would happily take shai bolton off their hands - he's basically replaced shane edwards' role in their midfield - but there's no way they're letting him go you'd think. nathan broad is ooc and wants to get paid, while riley collier-dawkins is undoubtedly good enough to play afl but breaking into their midfield is a tough ask so he might be looking for further opportunities. sydney stack is another player whose position is uncertain, going in and out of the side a bit with no set role - is he better behind the ball rather than as a forward? crows are presumably all over jack graham while oleg markov is another sa lad they'll undoubtedly be targeting so i can't see them switching to another vic side necessarily preferences: higgins, rioli, collier-dawkins possible trade: rioli for hawks' 2nd round pick
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they'll want more - polec is not a bad player but seems to have had a falling out with shaw he's significantly better than a lot of other players on their list and it's interesting that he's not getting a game; i don't think north is trying too hard to win at present
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port adelaide they're not going to be giving up the likes of zak butters or xavier duursma, who are the two i would be really keen on on their list. joe atley could easily be a delisted free agency pick-up but he seems to have completely fallen by the wayside in terms of where his football is at. if they're looking at trading anyone, wines would be the logical one, but i don't think he suits our midfield make-up. i have zero interest in bringing jack watts back to us, and i can't seem them letting the likes karl amon or dan houston go. sam powell-pepper is always discussed as a trade option for them every year, but usually heading home to wa. they do need 'points' with a strong couple of father-sons next season, so it's possible that - given their high position on the ladder - they might be amenable to trading out of this year's draft for next year's points preferences: butters, duursma, amon possible trade: our 2021 2nd and 3rd for their 2020 first and 2021 4th round pick (although i think the afl finally got around to banning picks for picks trades, so might have to have a player involved as well)
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north melbourne fire sale 2.0? the likes of ben brown, aaron hall, and jared polec would all seem to be on the chop, while who knows what the go is with the likes of senior players like higgins, goldstein, macmillan. again, it would seem more likely that they'd look to raid us rather than the other way around - they're not giving up the likes of tarryn thomas, luke mcdonald, ben, mckay, jye simpkin, or luke davies-uniacke on the cheap, while i don't rate the likes of paul ahern, mason wood, et al. if we were to target a player, for me it'd be polec, and given his (apparent) exorbitant wage you might be able to get him 'cheaper' than his actual worth; he'll be 28 at the start of next season so he's a 'finisher', as would be higgins. wouldn't want us to go near hall with a 10 ft barge pole, while brown is a great stay at home / lead from the square full forward in an era in which flexibility is paramount and given how he's looked like he's 48 not 28 this year it's hard to judge his worth. preferences: polec, higgins, brown possible trade: brayshaw for polec and future 2nd
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hawthorn hawks not such a happy team, really. what i'd actually like to get outta the hawks at the end of this season is not a player but their current coach as part of our football department - as heard on the "no merger" series he seems to have a genuine affection for the club so perhaps he could even do it on the cheap so he can help manage our soft cap spend on footy ops. hawthorn are such an old squad with minimal talent coming through; i think it's more likely that they come for players from us than we want players from them. perhaps they can have hunt and baker to complement their crazy running former demons with frost and frawley? you'd think they'd want to add midfield depth so they'd be keen on sparrow, bedford potentially to add some small forward with defensive pressure, and given their lack of competitive key forwards who can stay on the field, they might be a possible destination for tom mcdonald preferences: clarko as head of footy possible trade: hunt for a 3rd round pick
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gw$ oh, the seeming riches that they have of players that can't get games! makes ya worry about what they're capable of given how disappointing the giants have been this year. throw a blanket over the young talent time - jackson hately, jye caldwell, xavier o'halloran, ian hill - as to who you'd ideally like to poach for points. i'll take.....caldwell and hill. but the player we really want from this franchise at the end of this season is zac williams. he's more than just a half-back as seen by his stints in the middle last year. josh kelly is effectively a free agent at the end of next year; he has the option of signing a further extension, but that effectively means he's in his pre-agency period. no way we've got the assets to get him preferences: williams, kelly, caldwell and hill possible trade: who needs trade when you can just splash the cash? williams as a free agent thanks
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gc17 i'm presuming they need points, right? there's some darwin lad (who was meant to be boarding at melbourne grammar / scotch / haileybury this year) that they have first dibs on, right? i'd nevertheless be cautious about who you bring in. i don't rate peter wright particularly; not mobile enough or able to apply a scintilla of defensive pressure, but presuming he'd be 'cheap' as he's on a hefty contract and they're not playing him; they get him off their books for points i guess. i can't see what role he would play in our side, other than to take the spot of preuss' in-case-of-emergency-break-brayden role if he gets traded. fiorini looks seriously out of favour but we have a lot of players similar to him, so he'd be depth at best. wil brodie can't make their side at the moment, but i always thought he was pretty talented. preferences: brodie, fiorini, wright possible trade: brodie for 3rd round pick
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fremantle dockers adam cerra is an obvious one, and i think andrew brayshaw is clearly a serious talent but i can't see either of them leaving and we don't really have the assets to tempt freo to trade them to us unless we're sending jackson or rivers back the other way, and that's just not gonna happen. luke valente won't get a look in ahead of the likes of cerra, brayshaw or caleb serong in the midfield and you'd think he's the sort of player the crows would chase. sam sturt showed something on debut but as a mid-sized forward why would he come to us when we seem to have a plethora of that type (melksham, fritsch, hannan, avb, bennell). he's seriously talented tho. darcy tucker doesn't excite me much to be honest but you might be able to get him on the cheap. preferences: sturt, valente, tucker possible trade: future 4th for tucker
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the peptides darcy 'ellen' parish is out of contract and i would add him to our collection of ex-peptide players we've traded for second round picks and give them a chance to regenerate their list, but i doubt they'd be keen to do this; also expecting cats to use one of their three of this year's firsts that they hold for him. they've never given irving mosquito a 'go' but he looked to be the sort of zippy forward we would be interested in and you can't imagine he'd cost much as, well, he has no exposed form. if anthony mcdonald-tipingwuti was available i'd probably be keen, but i refuse to believe he'll want to leave after hemming and hawing about doing so at the end of the last season. while saad is out of contract you've got to assume he's weighing up options preferences: saad, parish, mosquito possible trade: hawks' future 2nd for parish
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the filth definitely tom phillips; right where we want him in terms of age (25 in 2021), role (outside runner with decent footskills), and ability (he's played some ripper games, particularly on the g). still in contract so can't see them being keen on losing him, but they have a lot of talent - and a lot of father-son talent - coming through that needs games and can play similar roles. would the crocked tom langdon want to play with his brother? pies' backline has been their strength and while langdon is in his pre-agency year i'd be in his ear telling him about darren burgess and how he'll be playing with his brother. the situation with jaidyn stephenson is really interesting; keeping a keen eye on that one as he's clearly a talent. pies are one team who DO need points - they've got quite a few father-sons coming thru, with nick daicos already being talked up - so we could get some things out of them that would benefit our side and help them preferences: stephenson, phillips, langdon possible trade: hawks' 2nd in 2020 PLUS our 2nd in 2021 for langdon and phillips