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have advocated the recruiting of moore for four seasons now, not gonna stop now. perfect size for a modern mid, has got over his niggles, is a lovely dude, and supported us growing up. somewhat little known fact; was the dude who broke blease's leg at school.

If we can land Lynch I'll be very pleased. Great work rate, impressive skill set, above average tall forward. Given that Dawes looks completely shot, Lynch - along with about half a dozen other types of players - is a much needed commodity for the Demons.

I agree with others actually, I think it's a good thing that we don't leak.

would love it if we could come in late and land a player such as treloar. unlikely. the only real stories around melbourne are that we are chasing lynch, likely to lose howe, and have enquired about every decent midfielder in the comp as well as a couple of fringe gws talls.

I have a theory that whenever Grimes plays well we have a whole played badly - he's not the player you want having oodles of possessions as he's simply not a good enough user of the ball. I maintain my dream trade scenario outlined above is still the dream...however unlikely it may be. Also, what's all this about Hogan being likely to request a trade at the end of this year or the next? Couldn't blame him, I would not want to play for the rabble that is the MFC either.

i'll see your options, and raise you... patrick dangerfield - free agent harley bennell and gc17 2016 second round pick - 2015 mfc first rounder and howe jack redden - 2016 mfc second round pick jed adcock - delisted free agent tom lynch - jimmy toumpas and 2016 mfc third round pick adam tomlinson - gc17 2016 second round pick james harmes - 2015 mfc 'last pick in draft' rookie upgrade aaron vandenberg - 2015 mfc 'second last pick in draft' rookie upgrade so in: patrick dangerfield harley bennell jack redden jed adcock tom lynch adam tomlinson out: howe jimmy toumpas 2015 first rounder 2016 third rounder garland (free agent) delisted: mckenzie riley jamar bail matt jones terlich (paid out) take to the draft: second, third and fourth round picks (plus two 'upgrades') two rookie list picks

Mackay is, like Redden, a player we were rumoured to have made a significant offer to a couple of years ago.

what's henderson worth? i expect blues will want cats' round 1 pick, ~10. i agree with the sentiment that he's worth around the same as dawes, who was 20 in a far stronger draft. blues shouldn't be expecting more than the cats' second rounder i wouldn't have thought. would still prefer tom lynch or adam tomlinson over henderson.

think he's getting the 'tough love' approach at the moment. he will be a player.

tomlinson would be the perfect complement to frost - a young key position swingman who can pinch hit in the ruck. one forward, one back. and for a second rounder? bargain.

let's get him at the end of 2016. clearly we targeted prestia from a long way out. who else is on our hit radar?

For Myers? I know we tried to get Heppell for pick 2 last year, but Myers one surprises me for pick 2. If he's one of the 34 wouldn't go anywhere near him.

He was pitched as a player who would come straight into the best 22, having played senior sanfl successfully for several seasons. Couldn't be further from the truth, could it? Looks hopelessly out of his depth and panics in possession.

no ways are giving up their first rounder for toumpas and our second rounder. he has zero value.

some of those tidbits of news came from player managers - and i'm fairly sure that hogan was discussed here first, then barrrett reported it. barrett's opinion pieces more often than not are opinion pieces that come after the likes of caroline or smith or denham have said it / written it two or three days prior. there's no doubt that he haunts message boards, which is a sensible thing to do when you think about it; how often is it that we see news here and then a couple of days later it's in the mainstream press?

some talk that ch 7 said other clubs are sniffing around gawn, who is ooc in 2016.

I've been really amazed by Nic Nat's improvement this year. I've been a naysayer for a long time - doesn't take marks, doesn't influence play - but he's really starting to show a lot more than that.

Is he Damien Barrett?

Has done nada at sanfl level all year, and had the heat put on him at the beginning of the year to improve or be chopped. I expect he might be a straight delist.

yeah, but it's extremely unlikely it's fair to say. although they have talked about his value being around that mark.

Howe - second round pick, maybe upgrade to first if bundled with something Dawes - late second round / early third round Grimes - third round / early fourth Garland will probably net us band 3 compo, depending on what salary he's offered by someone else, so likely end of second round pick. If he gets offered $600k, four years elsewhere, it might be higher, so a pick after our second rounder.

I don't. He's a former #1 pick, and a key position player, whereas Howe is a third tall. Regardless of knee injuries, we would have to pay a premium.

can't believe brisbane are chasing dixon so hard, offering him $750k a year. has he ever played more than three games in a row? he's mitch clark all over again. big, tall, strong, capable of the brilliant...and really frail.

gotta disagree jaded. garland is and has been a fine servant of the club, and him leaving as a free agent might gift us a second round pick. that's not being harsh, that's being an optimist (he's more likely to get us a third round pick). he performs consistently middlingly, is neither tall nor small (same as lumumba, cross, howe and grimes) and he is a shocking user of the ball - he 'sits' on it rather than distributing quickly and cleanly and he turns it over far too often. he also no longer rebounds from half-back. howe is younger and offers far more flexibility in terms of playing forward and, preferably, back. he also rebounds really well when positioned defensively. we simply cannot go into next season with garland, howe, lumumba, grimes, cross all as 'third / fourth tall' defenders. they don't do enough.

Stick a fork in about half a dozen of em.