Gorgoroth

I agree with most of the things he says, but if you change that jumper I'm gone!

Sod that, I avoid that area like the plague, I'm 10 - 15 min from the G. Keep it at the G.

Will he make it to be a 10 year player???? Good player though.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA GOLD!!!! :lol:

Exactly, he is not doing it for the accolades, he is doing it because as he said, in 18 months time we could end up like fitzroy unless we reveal the cracks and work to fix them.

I really get the impression that Lyon is working really hard behind the scenes and will help get the club back to being 1 club, not a club with fractions all ove the joint. I loved seeing his eyes when he was having a go at hutchy, there was true fire and anger in there!

My old man was saying we should have put johnson to full back lets face it he looks quicker than carroll and is a big body, we could try worse. Still don't think it would work though.

Bell - Not his best, but tried his best against franklin Bruce - needs to be told he is on his last chance, hit the packs and learn to kick, has not been good since his shoulder injury Buckley - ok at times Carroll - was slaughtered, tried to play franklin from behind.... ididot Davey - not his best, tried to run opponents down in patches, still think he is a forward and thats it. Garland - horrible disposal, god i hope it gets better Green - no idea, simply looked worse than a first gamer Johnson - nearly best on for us Jones - as always gave his all, but a little down on the form we expect froma 19 year old........ McDonald - looked tired and slow, hope he can bounce back. McLean - gave his all, like jones, still young and virtually alone out there Miller - IS NOT A BACK MAN! Moloney - looked really rusty and frustrated. Morton - Showed something, more than a lot of our senoir players Neitz - bigger heart than phar lap, age has wearied him, lest we forget. Newton - would be better alone with davey in the square. Petterd - good to see him playing, now lets get some form back. Robertson - fat and disinterested and should be moved out to the half forward line and told to run. Weetra - ok in patches, does look slow. Wheatley - needed the run, and it should come at sandy with green, yze, white and bruce White - PJ should have taken his spot as number 1 after 1/4 time Yze - career over pretty much

The difference was on sunday we did not even run, we pretty much stood there and about 2 or 3 would run to the pockets. WE ARE RABBLE! at kick ins and well pretty much every thing else too.

More to the point i can't believe we did not trade bruce and green with him.

Bobby, whilst i am usually an optimist, It's hard to be when they can not even hit a target 20 meters away. We have no foot skills and a lot of players who do not know where to run to, we always went to the boundary, the hawks always hit the centre. We still take forever to kick in from a point, we still over crowd our forward line and our manning up is still non existent. Once we figure out these things I'll believe we won't finish last.

No use blaming him, he is not the one training the players to try and hit the target from 20 meters away.

I agree on all, If green is to oplay he has to be played as a forward, from the square. Miller is not a backman, simple. Yze = bye Bruce....... I love the guy but he seems out of it, but I'll give him a few weeks, still can't kick though robbo, needs to do the simple things. White, PJ showed him how to chase, tackle, get possessions and create things, pity pj is not that great a ruckman. I'd add wheatley to this list, showed nothing yesterday and against decent opposition i think will be beaten every time. Only 21 more crappy weeks to go. It's going to be a long season ladies and gentleman.

If it was going to happen it would need to be against another vic side, I'd say the Saints, they don't have a block buster and i think the 2 clubs would pull 70k each time on a good friday. But if the AFL allow it, it will go to ess, coll, carl out of the Victorian sides.

I have played a few times and I thought it was waaaaay overrated.

Stoked, I too hate Carlton more than nearly anyone i think now.

I think its a blessing, the fact you do not have to play golf is a prize in it's self.

On foxtel all 4 panelists had us finishing last too.

I hope Morton plays.

I have received nothing!

Ahhhh i miss these over the summer.

Thats some good news for the club and hopefully means sponsors will look upon the club in a much more favourable light.

Still pretty low, you would hope that by sunday its a min 22k and by that night 25k if not they will not even get close to the same numbers as last year. I think we will get a max of 26k but more around 24k is what i expect.

The problem with jamar is not his rucking its the fact he does nothing around the ground. He playes well at sandy but does not seem to be able to impose himself upon the game when the bal;l is flowing back and forth.

I liked Dunn playing the run with role he did towards the end of the year, I'd prefer green playing HFF with a license to roam into the middle or swap with sylvia.