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Great Grand Finals: Melbourne v Essendon 1959
bush demon replied to bush demon's topic in Melbourne Demons
I have got 1960 and 1964. I will put them up shortly. -
A late Christmas offering before heading off for Christmas in Melbourne. It has been fantastic reading and sharing all the posts this year. Feeling confident about improved performances and ladder position next year. Here is a nice blast from the past: The radio commentary of the 1959 Grand Final, Melbourne's 10th premiership and sixth grand final appearance in a row, in which Melbourne avenged their shock 1958 loss:
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Wouldn't it be poetic justice that Ron Barassi's Irish experiment - which led to the "Irish experiment" of running across the mark in the '87 prelim - also led to the ultimate revival of our club and its legends.
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There is no afl competition anymore in the traditional sense. the only game being played for premiership points is the turf warfare between rugby 1, rugby 2, soccer and australian rules. everthing else is just pawns being moved across the board by zeus (andrew). notice how every premiership celebration/ photo opp these days is identical? every pre-season is identical, every injury melodrama is identical and every finals series (arm-wrestles resulting in breen-type victory) is identical. as long as melbourne don't end up in a confederation with western samoa, i definitely wouldn't go to the away games.
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Phil more likely the book depository building...
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Got into the ground just in time to see Farmer take a screamer directly in front at the Richmond end. Missed a sitter which could have set us off. North were the superior team that night. We were severely dudded with the fixturing in these finals after we 'knocked out' Adelaide.
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Top Ten Could-a-been Champions for the MFC
bush demon replied to bush demon's topic in Melbourne Demons
The one I remember from the early days was Chris Aitken. He kicked five in the last round of '68 against Essendon who went on to play in the grand final. I heard from an ex-demon work colleague that he got injured after that so that was the end of our big marking boom full forward prospects. also found out off the same person that his brother was the saxophonist cool dude Wilbur Wilde who played on Daryl Somers show. (different surname) -
The player losses starting 1961 are listed in Red Fox, there were at least seven premiership players still in working order who left in that period: Bob Johnson, Mithen, ridley, dennis jones, i can't remember the others without going back to the book. For summer reading and further enlightenment I suggest for summer reading the biog. on Tom Wills. It seems he also had ongoing disputes with committees not dissimilar to Smith. Both legends of the colours and the backbone of our heritage, and both flawed champions. Smith encoded the formula for red and blue multiple premierships and lesser men mopped up his bounty from the late 60's onwards, to our club's sorrow.
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He did in fact leave in his prime, at the end of 1948 when he captained Melbourne to the premiership. Coached Fitzroy for three years think he played some games too.
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Top Ten Could-a-been Champions for the MFC
bush demon replied to bush demon's topic in Melbourne Demons
that makes me think of peter yeo. wasn't he in the same category. also rod owen, ex-stkilda who moved pretty well for a while.. -
There are plenty of others, but straight off the bat: 1. Ivor Warne-Smith (did return) (two brownlows, premiership captain) 2. Fred Fanning left aged 25 (All-time goal-kicking champ for dees) 3. Stuart Spencer, 25. 4. Laurie Mithen 5. Bob Johnson 25. Went to premiership glory in W.A 6. Ron Barassi 28 7. Gerard Healey 8. Hassa Mann 9. Ian Ridley 25 10. Tom Scully (!) (Insert Michael Byrne)
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Top Ten Could-a-been Champions for the MFC
bush demon replied to bush demon's topic in Melbourne Demons
i don't necessarily mean cruelled by injuries, but didn't live up to potential... -
Players who had something special but just didn't reach the heights hoped for: 1. Russell Richards 2. David Cordner 3. Travis Johnstone 4. Graham Molloy 5. John Tilbrook 6. Warren Dean 7. Allan Jackovich 8. James Cook 9. Darren Cuthbertson 10. Brock McLean (replacing Chris Aitken)
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ok, in the spirit intended: 1. Hassa Mann mid 60's... although he played in three premierships before my time. He was the dominant performer in our sorrow period. shot through to W.A late 60's think he had glory there. won some memorable games with last gasp efforts. 2. Robbie Flower. dominated for victoria, dominated for melbourne. punched far above his weight. rose like a greek god in the '87 finals series. 3. John Townsend. for some reason this guy just kept my imagination alive when our team flat-lined. 4. Stan Alves. This guy was pure inspiration and refused to accept losing situations. Inspirational. 5. David Schwartz. Could have been a champion. was a champion. 6. Ricky Jackson. ran rings around the opposition in our false-dawn era (87-91) 7. Ray Biffen. Flew the flag in our could-have-been era, early 70's. 8. Greg Parke. Took many screaming pack marks and again, gave heart in the dark days. 9. Ross Dillon. Elite, copped lots of injuries. Same as Parke with his high marking excitement. 10. For some unknown reason i wore Paul Callery's 35 on my back for several seasons. a gutsy stalwart of the mfc.
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I am re-reading Red Fox at present and I think painting Smith as a martyr in Melbourne's demise is not the way to go. Towards the end of '64 an undeclared war between the committee and Smith had led BOTH Smith and Barassi to shop around for gigs at either Carlton or Richmond. The root cause of this appears to be Melbourne's unwillingness to join the dawning cheque book recruitment campaign of competing clubs which was rapidly overtaking the Demons' list. Smith's tantrum over Umpire Blew's alleged bias in at match during '64 also indicated Smith was losing his sure touch... undoubtedly frustrated by Melbourne's declining list he was getting frayed and trying to squeeze more out of less. At the end of '64 we lost Barassi, Adams and Roet and i think our only signficant gain in '65 was Stan Alves. It pains me to remember supporting the shell of the demons team through the 60's when we had lapsed into irrelevance. it pains me that i continued to follow the demons through the 70's and on to the present day, all the time shackled with the memory 'what if' the Smith/Barassi reign hadn't disintegrated. Despite all this, I am glad to say that I am still "Melbourne" and can see brighter days ahead.
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Dermot Brereton. And on a 'lighter' note, Ian Cooper.
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I think that MFC celebrated their '64 premiership win at the Melbourne Town Hall. The club should look at using this venue again from time to time.
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In recent years we have been slightly downscaled to 'melbourne demons' whereas our proper name is 'melbourne football club'. we shouldn't lightly give up this privileged title.
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One night Ron was in a cafe eating spaghetti parmiagana when he saw a guy running past in a bright blue and red footy jumper. he noticed the guy was carrying a box of "Demon VHS Cassettes, 81-85" so he gave chase, detained the guy and destroyed the box and its contents.
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My favourite memory of Don Williams from this period was his card in my1964 (or 1966) Mobil Football album. Trying to remember who the other demons were; must have been Barassi and I think Tassy Johnson. Just looked it up. '64 was Mann, Dixon, Johnson. Don Williams must have been in the '66 cards.
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We also lost Doc Roet for a while during this period, didn't we?
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... spilled (or palmed?) by Barassi with crompton getting a nice bounce. the most amazing thing was the kickout by the fullback (which Dixon marked).
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Year on year improvements and why we will finish in the top 8
bush demon replied to bandicoot's topic in Melbourne Demons
Northey, Balme and Daniher had almost immediate impacts, especially Daniher, who brought 'science', football classes and hope to the club with a prelim. in his first year and a grandd final in his third. there is every reason to hope we can shoot up the ladder. our interstate performances will be a key indicator. so to will be our ability to win at aint-it-hard car park football park. -
If you read Red Fox it is clear that this was one of Norm Smith's favourite party tricks; spraying players he knew could take it and would therefore inspire lesser types to greater efforts. He did it on the eve of the '64 grand final, possibly Adams was one of the players who was bog.